Winchester Lever Action

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Need help in identifying Model # and date of manufactuer. The only markings on the gun I could find is 2 patent dates, 1860 and 1866. It says Winchester Repeating Arms, New Haven, Conn. King's Improvement Patented March 29, 1866, October 16, 1860. The bore measures approx. .40 inch. and the barrel length measures 17 inches. Here are a few pictures:
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Looks like an 1873 Winchester with either a factory or post-factory shortened barrel.

It's missing the hand guard, but other than that, looks intact.

A serial number will help narrow it down to the year made.
The serial number should be stamped on the lower receiver tang, under the lever.

The caliber is often marked on the bottom of the brass cartridge lifter, on the under side of the receiver.
Usual calibers were 32-20, 38-40, and the most popular 44-40.

Depending on the version, and whether the short barrel was a factory special order, these can be worth big money.
 
Yup, Winchester 1873 short rifle (or shortened rifle) missing the foreend.
The caliber should be marked on the bottom of the brass cartridge lifter right in front of the lever pivot. If it is not there and is not simply worn off, it is a .44-40 made before the other calibres were added.
We need the serial number, there were three major variations made over a 39 year period.
 
It is a Third Model 1873 Winchester, and the shape of the frame says it is .38-40, so the .40 measurement is spot on. The serial number should be on the bottom tang, behind the lever, and the marking "Model 1873" or later, "Model 1873/Winchester/Trade Mark" should be on the top tang behind the hammer.

The Third Model is the most common 1873, comprising around 630,000 of the total 1873 production of 720,000. Short barrels are common also, as Winchester would put on almost any length barrel a customer wanted, and of course, gunsmiths would also shorten barrels if a customer wanted (during the Model 1873's production life, there was no National Firearms Act and no minimum barrel length). The absence of the fore-end might have been simply a loss, or an attempt to make the rifle look like a Henry for some unknown reason.

The center fire Model 1873 was discontinued in 1919, although some were assembled from parts and sold for a few more years.

Jim
 
As always, the knowledge of this website is awe inspiring. With the help of a pencil lead, I did find the serial number 284663B right where I was told to look, it was not visible until I did the pencil trick. The brass cartridge lifter has a black coating of some kind, not sure if is paint or oxidation and I do not see any caliber markings. Not sure if I should try and remove that coating.
What is the purpose of the approx. 1/2 in. hole in the metal butt plate. It goes into the stock about 6 inches?
 
SOMEWHERE I saw a serial number listing that dated 1873 rifles, but I can't seem to find it now.

The hole in the butt is for a sectioned cleaning rod.

There should be a sliding door over it.
 
The chart in Blue Book says early 1889.

Don't get in a rush to clean it up. Unless you are ready to embark on a full and expensive restoration, it is worth more dirty and tarnished than heavily cleaned.
 
I have a Winchester Model 1873 King's Improvement March 29, 1866, October 16, 1860, .44 cal, Serial #154010A.
Any idea when it was manufactured and a value range or where I can find out what it's worth?
Thanks,
Fred
 
Made 1884.

Value depends on a lot of things, such a exact model, condition of finish, condition of bore, etc.

Check Auctionarms.com, Gunbroker.com, and Gunsamerica.com for similiar condition guns and see what they sell for.

Cabala's Gun Library also has a bunch of 73's, although thier prices are a little optomistic to say the least!
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...rarchyId=11931&cm_re=gl*left*winchesterrifles

rc
 
I found out more info on what I have. Thanks for the link to Cabela's rcmodel. Here is the full info as I know it.
Winchester Model 1873 (Third Model)
24" Barrel
King's Improvement March 29, 1866, October 16, 1860
.44 cal (not sure if it's rim fire or center fire and if it's a .44-40) i could use a little help on this one.
Made in 1884
Style = Sporting Rifle
Condition = Good.

FC
 
I found out more info on what I have. Thanks for the link to Cabela's rcmodel. Here is the full info as I know it.
Winchester Model 1873 (Third Model)
24" Barrel
King's Improvement March 29, 1866, October 16, 1860
.44 cal (not sure if it's rim fire or center fire and if it's a .44-40) i could use a little help on this one.
Made in 1884
Style = Sporting Rifle
Condition = Good.

FC
 
Fred, That's a .44/40. In the future please start your own thread instead of under someone else's... makes it easier to get lost when you are tacking on.
 
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