Wolf vs. Man on Discovery Channel

[Alaska444]

I am sitting here watching a pro-wolf propaganda show following wolves in WA state Cascade mountains. They also have one of these eco folks going out on a wolf hunt in Idaho.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=1.14361.137313.40772.0

Nothing wrong with promoting the health and welfare of nature, but what irks me is that they are not telling the true story of the "wolf disaster" here in Idaho and why hunting has to be done to keep them from decimating the other large game animals. Oh well, you can't promote your version of events by telling the truth!!

I suspect WA state which is dominated politically by ultra liberal politicians will never take the steps to protect nature from this invasive species. Maybe we can send a few packs down to Sacramento so that they can enjoy these destructive critters as well.

The question will remain in the future whether this ultraliberal, environmental dominated state will control the wolf population as other states such as Idaho and Montana do through hunting?

 

[HOOfan_1]

Even if I do agree with "controlling" WITHOUT ELIMINATING the wolf population...I think your Yes choice is worded poorly. Wolves are not an invasive species in the American North West. Humans can be an invasive destructive species though...that's why wolves nearly went extinct in Washington.

We have the power so we can wipe them out...is that right or wrong? There really is no answer for that. I certainly don't believe that one group should decide to wipe them out and deny others in the present and future generations from enjoying their presence. Just as I don't believe that another group should decide they should be protected at all costs and to the detriment of the other group who want them wiped out.

 

[Alaska444]

Actually, I did word it very carefully since the Mackenzie Valley wolf is an invasive species and that is at the heart of the Idaho wolf disaster. In addition, I stated CONTROL, not ELIMINATE. I believe with the very rapid population growth of wolves, WA state will have it's own wolf disaster soon enough.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackenzie_Valley_Wolf

The native Idaho wolf was the native Rocky Mountain wolf which was smaller and had very different behavior than the huge Mackenzie Valley wolves.

http://www.skinnymoose.com/bbb/2011...ain-wolves-v-introduced-canadian-gray-wolves/

Most folks are unaware that the Feds pulled the wool over people's eyes with this "reintroduction," when instead it is very much an invasive species spreading disease and destroying game animals. Will WA state issue a wolf hunt in the future to control this species, or will they let nature rule and allow this invasive subspecies to decimate the native ungulates?

 

[HOOfan_1]

all wolves are the same species so it couldn't be an invasive SPECIES...and some of the Mackenzie Valley subspecies made it into Northern Montana and Idaho without human intervention.

Again I disagree with the KILL EM ALL argument as much as I disagree with the PROTECT AT ALL COST argument. Seems like there are irrational arguments on both sides just as there are irrational arguments on both sides of just about ever debate.

 

[Alaska444]

With all due respect, there is no KILL EM ALL option. Please don't conflate the issues.

My post was well worded and very specific. If we had native cocker spaniels and the Feds reintroduced Irish wolf hounds to replace them once exterminated, that is exactly what the Feds have done. They played bait and switch on the public and in fact, the slowly recovering Idaho wolf has been completely wiped out by this invasive "subspecies."

 

[Robert]

Let's add Wolf threads to the list of things that we should take a break and step back from. These are becoming like bear threads... annoying.