World Hunting Association? Anyone else hate this idea?

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Karbon

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http://www.hunting.net/fieldjournal/fieldjournal_detail.aspx?nID=394

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THIS IS THE WORST IDEA I HAVE EVER HEARD.

Talk about ruining hunting.They are taking everything special and “right” about hunting and commercializing it so they (and others) can make money. Soon it will be tainted like every (most) other professional sport and our children will have to be re-taught what hunting is and really means.

I hope the hunters here, like myself, and around the world, make this a failing endeavor for thier group. I will not support this and any of thier sponsors. Real hunters will urge as many others out there to do the same.

I wish them no luck in the pollution of one of our last real treasures and traditions.
 
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When I first heard about the proposed "World Hunting Association" my exact response was "What? Are you kidding me?" Being involved in the hunting industry affords us the opportunity to learn about a lot of new things before they are released into the press for public viewing and response. At the time I thought that maybe I was just crazy, or maybe I didn't fully understand the scope of this endeavor and that I would be enlightened as more details were released.

With the official release of WHA information late last week my worst fears came true - I'm not alone in my thinking. With an overwhelming response from hunters not only on HuntingNet.com, but across the internet, one thing is clear - the WHA is bad for the sport of hunting any hunters are doing everything they can to express their outrage. The true power of the internet was shown as thousands of hunters from around the globe spread the word about their distaste for this new endeavor. If this doesn't wake the hunting community up to the reality of the Internet's power, I don't know what will!

For those of you who have not heard of this new organization, the WHA is attempting to turn hunting into a professional sport wherein competitors chase monster bucks (in high fenced ranches) with tranquilizer darts for large sums of money. Each hunter will wear NASCAR style sponsor-branded apparel and be scored on the size of the buck they shoot. A video on the WHA website depicts a "hunter" (and I use the term loosely) who is drawn on a buck and flashes of women, cars, and large houses go through his head. These events are promoted to be aired on a pay-per-view type basis both on national cable television as well as the WHA website.

Years ago when I first began hunting with my dad, even well before I could even carry a weapon, I was shown the values and true reasons behind why we hunt. It was never spelled out to me in a book or taught to me in a classroom, but rather it was instilled in me through time spent with my family and friends, time spent in the serenity of the outdoors, and through the experiences and memories that I have taken with me over the years. I, like many hunters, value my time spent in the outdoors and with my friends and family much more than I value the harvesting of an animal.

Does that mean I don't work hard to try and harvest a big buck every fall? Absolutely not. Nearly half of my time spent outdoors with friends and family is scouting, planting food plots, hanging stands, moving stands, and other preparation work in hopes of getting a crack at a good buck this fall. That is all part of the experience that makes hunting what it is - a year around committment. An adventure. Not just a hobby or a pasttime, but a way of life. However, dreams of harvesting giant bucks is far from the driving force that keeps me going back day after day, year after year.
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I'm getting off track here, but I hope you're beginning to see my point. Hunting isn't about monster bucks, fast cars, hot women, big houses, and lots of money. Its about taking the time from our increasingly busy and technological lives to experience the outdoors with our friends and family. Its about watching the sun rise on a cold November morning and simply being happy to be alive and be able to enjoy nature. Its about reconnecting with that part of our heritage that for many people has already been lost. Its about doing our duty as stewards of the land to ensure there is healthy wildlife habitat and populations for future generations - or children - to experience. The WHA supports none of these things and has turned our sport - or heritage - into a mockery of what it once was.

I for one am glad to see hunters standing up and voicing their concerns over an organization from which no good can possibly come. In a time when hunting is under attack on all fronts we need to stand up and let people know this is not who we are or what we stand for.

Here are but a few of the quotes from the HuntingNet.com message board:

"It rubs me the wrong way. The whole idea of competing for money, using tranquilizer darts, etc just seems really cheap and disrespectful to the sport. Watching these guys shoot fenced in deer with tranquilizer darts for hundreds of thousands of dollars of prize money is not hunting as I define it. I think this real estate mogul saw how much money there is in WWF wrestling and professional BASS fishing and is trying to do the same thing with hunting. I'm not interested in watching."

"In addition to being unethical, immoral, greedy, and shows the lack of respect for hunting and those who have fought long and hard for sportsman's rights"

"It's a very limited number of individuals looking to line their pockets at the possible expense of the majority under the disguise of it "benefiting" the hunting cause. It's not hunting and when I see it called hunting or possibly when the media considers it hunting I think I'll hurl."

Companies such as G5 Outdoors, Eastman (Carbon Express), and Gorilla treestands have already withdrawn or denied sponsorship for the WHA based on the feedback of hunters who expressed their outrage via phonecalls, emails, and several internet message boards. It is unfortunate that these companies did not realize the detrimental impact the WHA would have on the hunting industry from the beginning, however I commend them all for taking prompt action in issuing a response to public outrage.

For additional informat on the World Hunting Association you can visit their website at http://www.worldhunt.com

To participate in WHA discussions on the HuntingNet.com message board please click here.

Please feel free to email me with your comments and concerns at [email protected] and I will do my best to post them as they come in.
 
I can tell you right now that I will immediately quit purchasing products from any company that sponsors that garbage.

I couldn't find a sponsor list on the site. Has anyone else seen one?
 
So what did you expect...

...When nobody got incensed about professional bass & walleye fishing? Did everyone actually believe the concept would not or could not be adapted to hunting? How many of you are BASS members, or any of the other fishing 'clubs' that have proliferated since? I saw this coming in the 70's...
 
I don't get into any of that tournament fishing stuff at all, but at the same time, I don't see anything wrong with it. Those are just guys out trying to catch fish, and then comparing how much they caught to see who wins a prize. That's really no different than what fishermen have been doing since somebody invented the hook.

This WHA crap is different because they're hunting penned animals in a fenced area and shooting them with tranquilizer darts. The whole concept is insulting.
 
That's exactly what I think of it. It's crap.

They are taking everything special and “right” about hunting and commercializing it so they (and others) can make money. Soon it will be tainted like every (most) other professional sport and our children will have to be re-taught what hunting is and really means.

I hope the hunters here, like myself, and around the world, make this a failing endeavor for thier group. I will not support this and any of thier sponsors. Real hunters will urge as many others out there to do the same.

I wish them no luck in the pollution of one of our last real treasures and traditions.
 
Penned animals? Tranquilizer darts? And they relate this to hunting how?

Where I live it would be illegal. It would be considered cruelty to the animals.

(And in case you wonder, I live in a country where even environmentalists generally accept hunting and fishing - a country where I can buy whale-steak at the local supermarket.)
 
Good or Bad, Right or Wrong! The "general" public has a completely different tolorance of fishing than they do of hunting and that is why the fishing commercialization has worked. Anything beyound something like Buckmasters and Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation are doomed to failure.

It is my understanding that they have lost practically all if not all of their "intended" sponsers. And I hope they loose um all and they never make the first production. I feer that it would be harmful to the entire hunting experience.

Its bad enough watching these so called "hunting shows" on TV now, where they harvest what is obviously semi tame animals and birds, under the guise of "hunting."
 
Bank on this; anything prefixed with "world", "international" etc has a better than good chance of being assimilated into the cloud of NGO flies buzzing in and around the U.N. and all things global. And more mock opposition; whether or not they start off as being completely independant.

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Even BASS turns me off and I've never been a member of that organization, either. To me, bass fishing, trout fishing, deer hunting, duck hunting are solitary pursuits, not spectator sports. :rolleyes: There should be no points or champions. I race motorcycles for that sort of thing. The rewards of hunting come first with a clean kill, successful hunt, then at the dinner table. To me, a day afield is reward enough in and of itself. We start goin' down this competition road, we'll begin to lose the aesthetics of hunting. Aldo Leupold's "Sand County Almanac" should be required reading before a hunter gets his or her hunter's safety course certificate, IMHO. Maybe I'm old school, but ethics never change IMHO.
 
Aldo Leupold's "Sand County Almanac" should be required reading before a hunter gets his or her hunter's safety course certificate, IMHO. Maybe I'm old school, but ethics never change IMHO.

Great idea for a required read.

I just hope the internet flaming actually gains speed, and actually prevents this from happening.

I am glad to see that there are many others out there that share my feelings on this idiotic concept. I really don’t think they can even call what they are planning to do “hunting”. It’s more like a chasing of animals for fame and money.

Hunting, as my father taught me, is nothing like what they are planning. My father taught me that hunting is all about respect.
Respect for the opportunity we still have to enjoy this great tradition
Respect for the game
Respect for the others who share our passions for hunting (and those that do not)
Respect for our limitations
Respect for the hunt
Respect for the future of what we all cherish

This organization is doing none of the above.

This still sickens me. I have written to everyone at WHA I have been able to get an email or physical address and have yet to hear a response back.
 
I wnat to know what we as the high road can do to help stop this proble. Saftey is in numbers and we have quite a few but we would need to all pull together.:)
 
if this stupid thing takes off i would actually consider putting away my rifle so as not to be bunched together with these bozo's. :cuss: Step one to hurting this stupid organization.....email polaris "obviously sponsering this corperation with the polaris giveaway" with a bunch of refusal to purchase from them unless they pull their sponsorship. Step 2 find out who else sponsors this organization, and slowly eat away at their funding no money=no WHA
 
Disgusting!

A competitive, organized event for prizes is exactly the antithesis of what hunting--and fishing, for that matter--is all about.

Karbon--Hey, someone else reads Leopold! But he ought not to be required reading for these competitive "hunting" bozos--they'd never get it! And Aldo did demand of his readers a fairly voluminous vocabulary.

I like his point in "A Man's Leisure Time" that anything that is productive isn't a hobby. A hobby is supposed to be consumptive of time and energy, to no productive purpose. What you get out of it is far more important than mere monetary profit.

Was it former President Herbert Hoover who wrote the book, Fishing For Fun--and to Wash Your Soul? Now THAT'S a Right Attitude toward fishing!

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, ANY "sport" done for monetary gain is the wrong thing. You want to see real football or basketball, visit your local high school. You want real stock car racing? Visit your local dirt quarter-mile. You want real sport on a high level--that's what the Olympics was made for (although it too has drifted.) But "professional sports" is an oxymoron. Now that I've explained that, just watch how quickly the NFL, NASCAR, and the NBA disappear. Uh huh.

Speaking of the Olympics, did you know that Baron Coubertin (sp?) the father of the modern Olympics, was a competitor himself--in pistol shooting?? Horrors! How un-P. C! :D
 
Does anybody have a list of their sponsers?
A couple other sites I'm on feel the same way and we're try to boycot but need to know their sponsers.
 
Gentlemen, I just signed the pettition and I was appaulded to see that I was only number 984----come on lets get some names on that thing.:cuss: :fire:
 
pcg the only sponsor tat ive been able to nail down is polaris. They are giving away some of those little pickup things at the launch of the "league".you gotta be sure to tell the sponsors that you are boycotting them otherwise they might just think that business is slow (provided we get enough people to do it to begin with that is)
 
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