Is this what USFA has become?

I want one!!

April Fools Day come early this year?

Dear God...just what we need...a snap-on .22 LR force multiplier for a SCAR 16 or M4.

May God have mercy on our enemies, doomed souls that they be now...

I already emailed them to see if it was going to be submitted to the CA roster so I can buy one all legal like.

I didn't watch the video but saw that they had it labled "the future of fun". On that note, more power too them. Sometimes I get tired of the caliber / capacity / this is the gun that will save my life when a volcano lands on my house talk.

Fun is the forgotten part of this hobby. That zip gun doesn't do much for me and I will not buy one, but lots of folks think my Single Action revolvers are silly.

If you buy one have fun, if you don't make sure you find a way to have fun with what you do get

PO2Hammer said:

Somehow I don't see Cali approving this one.

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from the pdf spec sheet i could not see any reason it would not. Just needs to pass the drop test, and from what USFA says about their 5 safeties it should.

Sad, sad, sad, sad, sad.

Maybe, but it has the potential to make a lot more money for the manufacturer then high priced clones of Colt's SAA. It's not something I'm interested in, but we shall see.

I want one as a toy (not for any practical reason)

Yea I can see it might reduce the cost of killing the Zombie Hoards for me. Just what I need when I hit the bottom of that 75 round drum.

Maybe, but it has the potential to make a lot more money for the manufacturer then high priced clones of Colt's SAA.

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Let's get one thing clear, USFA has not changed direction because their guns did not sell. Not because they did not produce a better SAA than Colt ever did. They sold every gun they produced and were backlogged 12-18months on some guns. They have changed direction because president Doug Donnelly is flaky and got bored.

They have changed direction because president Doug Donnelly is flaky and got bored.

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I won't dispute your description of the company's SAA revolvers, but from the president's perspective it might be that the question was not how many revolvers they cound make, or what the back orders looked like, but how much profit could the get out of making the effort. I suspect that Mr. Donnelly is neither flaky nor bored, but rather has decided to shift directions in a quest for more profits. Making a 19th century revolver in this day and age, while making money isn't easy.

They used to have interested customers who bought their stuff. Let's see if interested customers follow in the new direction, or take business elsewhere........

I won't dispute your description of the company's SAA revolvers, but from the president's perspective it might be that the question was not how many revolvers they cound make, or what the back orders looked like, but how much profit could the get out of making the effort. I suspect that Mr. Donnelly is neither flaky nor bored, but rather has decided to shift directions in a quest for more profits. Making a 19th century revolver in this day and age, while making money isn't easy.

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Everything I've seen and heard, including from several industry folk, would indicate otherwise.

I had already viewed this new product as it came up in a discusstion on another thread dealing with choices in a small back-up pistol in .22LR. At the time I questioned its not so small size (using a Ruger 10/22 mag), and thought the advertising hyperbole was a little over the top. I am only interested in this product in as far as it's successful enough to hopefully allow for more capital to be invested towards increasing their SA revolver production sooner rather than later.

I think it's innovative. I'm glad to see someone take the risk of putting something different on the market. It's easy to talk trash on a product if it's not your thing.

They're supposed to have them available to shoot at the SHOT Show in Vegas.

Cool- I too want one! Don't like the name though, zip gun used to mean something else...

PO2Hammer said:

Is this what USFA has become?

http://www.usfirearms.com/

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Only because this is what the gun buying public has become. Major established Manufacturers don't bring out new product lines without first doing market research and estimating demand. While it ain't my cup of Java, it sure reminds me of some of the Borderland video game weapons.........

Back from SHOT Show in Vegas & yes- this is what USFA has become.
The traditional USFA operation is on hold "for a couple years" while they concentrate on the new zipper.
After which, they'll open it up again. IF the zipper sells well enough.

I didn't make it to the range shoot, but I did stop by & talk to a rep on the floor. The boss was about five feet away talking to other people, so I didn't try to bust in & talk to him directly.

I was told 35,000 orders had been taken by the third day of the Show.
I hefted one of the zippers & found it the most uncomfortable & ungainly handgun I've ever touched.
There may be novelty appeal, but to my mind the only thing going for it as a standalone pistol is that it can burn through a 25-round magazine in a hurry.
If that's all you're looking for, it'll do it.

I doubt thousands of buyers will spend the time & money to SBR it, but I could be wrong.
I'm all for new designs & new ideas in the Industry, but I'm just not seeing it on this one.
Denis

"Back from SHOT Show in Vegas & yes- this is what USFA has become.
The traditional USFA operation is on hold "for a couple years" while they concentrate on the new zipper.
After which, they'll open it up again. IF the zipper sells well enough.

I didn't make it to the range shoot, but I did stop by & talk to a rep on the floor. The boss was about five feet away talking to other people, so I didn't try to bust in & talk to him directly.

I was told 35,000 orders had been taken by the third day of the Show.
I hefted one of the zippers & found it the most uncomfortable & ungainly handgun I've ever touched.
There may be novelty appeal, but to my mind the only thing going for it as a standalone pistol is that it can burn through a 25-round magazine in a hurry.
If that's all you're looking for, it'll do it.

I doubt thousands of buyers will spend the time & money to SBR it, but I could be wrong.
I'm all for new designs & new ideas in the Industry, but I'm just not seeing it on this one.
Denis"

Given that highlighted above I do not expect to ever see single actions again from USFA.

The traditional USFA operation is on hold "for a couple years" while they concentrate on the new zipper. After which, they'll open it up again...

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And meanwhile the skilled and experienced workers who did the work after parts came off the machines will stay around and sit on their hands. Sure they will...

I agree - future Single Action revolvers are unlikely - at least in the present form.