NY Gun Owners Threatening Non-Compliance With New Gun Control Laws

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I suspect the NRA and NYSRPA will go into a federal court and ask for an injunction preventing the law’s enforcement while the court reviews challenges to it. Give the absolutely stupid way it is written, they are likely to get it.
 
^ Like others said, a form is filled out & mailed or faxed in. how can they tell who registered & who didnt ? unless its entered in a computer, & your name is called in & they ask if the particular gun in question is under your name? For the most part, ranges are privately owned, & if county run, they arent going to make phone calls all day long every time someone comes in with an ar or ak,they are pro gun,too & sure wont enforce it.Maybe with all the outcry, the law will be crushed before next year....
 
I suspect the NRA and NYSRPA will go into a federal court and ask for an injunction preventing the law’s enforcement while the court reviews challenges to it. Give the absolutely stupid way it is written, they are likely to get it.
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Hopefully, they will try to get Governor Cuomo out of office as well.
 
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I wish them well, but it is not so simple.
Don't obey the registration law and you are asking for a world of hurt.

1) You will never be able to own a legal AR-15 type weapon in New York

2) You will not be able to shoot it in New York.

3) If possession of an unregistered gun is a felony, you could lose your 2nd Amendment rights in the entire USA forever.

4) If someone has a beef with you and knows what you are hiding under your bed or in your safe, they can ruin your life by ratting you out to the authorities. Persons in the middle of a nasty divorce or ex-spouses can get real nasty. Just ask the NJ cop whose wife knew he had an illegal Marlin 60 Assault Weapon. Yes, a Marlin 60. Conviction upheld on appeal.

It's all well and good to fight for freedom,
But sometimes it pays to pick your battles.
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Obviously there is not a guide book that tells one which battles should be fought and which should be avoided - everyone makes their own choices. So let me ask you this...if this is not one of those worth fighting, what would be an example of one that is?
 
bushmaster1313 said:
I wish them well, but it is not so simple.
Don't obey the registration law and you are asking for a world of hurt.

1) You will never be able to own a legal AR-15 type weapon in New York

2) You will not be able to shoot it in New York.

3) If possession of an unregistered gun is a felony, you could lose your 2nd Amendment rights in the entire USA forever.

4) If someone has a beef with you and knows what you are hiding under your bed or in your safe, they can ruin your life by ratting you out to the authorities. Persons in the middle of a nasty divorce or ex-spouses can get real nasty. Just ask the NJ cop whose wife knew he had an illegal Marlin 60 Assault Weapon. Yes, a Marlin 60. Conviction upheld on appeal.

It's all well and good to fight for freedom,
But sometimes it pays to pick your battles.
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Guess we should've let George III oppress us?

Let Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Amin kill innocents?

What is a worthy battle? Taking up arms in defense of PETA and Starbucks?

Forget New York, I don't like smog. Keep Joisy too.
I'll take my chances in the Corn States, where folks is as ornery as I am, and just as apt to fight to keep their rights intact.

The East can duke it out as they see fit, or as you suggest, find decent sand in which to bury your head.
 
When I got out of college in 1989, I made a conscious decision to live where I live. I could have made more $ in CA, NY, CT, or Il. I grew up in PA, and remember how pissed I was that I had to wait almost a week to take possession of a .22 LR revolver. I decided at that moment I would never be subject to that kind of BS again. If I lived in NY, I would consider that I was behind enemy lines in hostile territory, and would do whatever it took to leave. Nothing is as eloquent as voting with your feet. Let the looters and moochers drown in their own cesspool. As an added bonus, no matter where you go in the free states you will be able to keep a larger percentage of your paycheck.
 
Its like the boston tea party of 1773 all over again ! No taxation without representation !:neener:
 
So let me ask you this...if this is not one of those worth fighting, what would be an example of one that is?
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IMHO, this is not one of the battles worth fighting.

We are not talking a slap on the wrist for misdemeanor civil disobedience.
The people promulgating these laws would think nothing of throwing you in prison for 5 years, branding you a felon (thereby extinguishing your RTKBA), keeping you from your kids, and blacklisting you from any profession that requires a clean record.

I know I am not answering your question about what is worth fighting for, but that is not what is on the table.
 
Not a coffee fan? Then Starbucks is just for you! I don't think coffee is even on the menu!
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I'm a huge coffee fan, actually. However, what was mentioned isn't coffee. Starbuck's main coffee blend is (I believe) Pike's Peak. Decent enough. For Columbian I prefer Caribou's brand, which is the best IMO. Believe it or not, the McDonald's who serve Newmans's coffee serves a great product for $1 for any size. I also really like Dunkin Donut's coffee. Cumberland Farm's gas stations serve a good coffee as well and I like their Columbian brand also. As you can see, I don't call anything that ends in "chino" coffee even though it may contain 10% real coffee. I also don't see any coffee with a "chino" in it in the hands of any hard core gun person who posts on these boards. Of course, I have been proven wrong.
 
bushmaster1313 said:
IMHO, this is not one of the battles worth fighting.

We are not talking a slap on the wrist for misdemeanor civil disobedience.
The people promulgating these laws would think nothing of throwing you in prison for 5 years, branding you a felon (thereby extinguishing your RTKBA), keeping you from your kids, and blacklisting you from any profession that requires a clean record.

I know I am not answering your question about what is worth fighting for, but that is not what is on the table.
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"The price is too high;" and that is the story of how your inherent rights are stolen away.
 
I think that everyone is going to get a registration card with the listed rifles on the card.
 
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Awesome.



I'm a police officer and I don't think people should have to register their weapons or have limits on magazines or so called assault weapons.




All the cops I know say you wouldn't go door to door to confiscate weapons. Not only is illegal it would also be suicide.
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NY is an interesting case because it's one of the few states with handgun registration. Want to find the rifles? Grab the addresses from the permit database. I don't know any handgun shooters at my range that didn't start with longarms in some fashion or another.
 
This is great. I hope gun-owners the nation over follow.

I'm tired of seeing people following unjust laws and citing the repercussions of doing otherwise.
"Oh wah well if we don't do what they say they can hurt us"

Man up. Our forefathers were facing charges of treason and execution for what they did to get this country into existence.

Stop being cry-babies and doing what your told out of fear of not being to exercise your rights. That makes no sense whatsoever. If you keep following these types of laws, you won't be able to exercise your rights anyway, because you're letting them be taken away!

If someone tries to take your arms by force, use force to protect them. Don't be sheep.
 
"The price is too high;" and that is the story of how your inherent rights are stolen away.
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You live in the free state of Utah as a matter of choice.

In general, people who live in New York also do so as a matter of choice.
One of the consequences of living in certain states is that the freedoms which others take for granted in states like Utah simply do not exist in states like New York and New Jersey.

If an assault weapons ban was clearly unconstitutional it would have been successfully challenged before the country turned to the left.

Washington is not going to send federal troops to New York to enforce the Second Amendment.

It stinks, but that's the way it is.
 
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I know a lot of people in New York and most have long guns only due to the lengthy and expensive process of handgun registration. I would guess (key word) that there are 4 long gun owners for every handgun owner just from who I know. There are so many long guns that are not known about, I don't see how any "voluntary" registration will work. Do you really own an AR if no one knows you own it? I think this is the thrust of the people who are standing up and saying they won't comply. How many wives even know what an AR is? If you live close-to-the-vest, you may be well under the radar and I don't see how it can be effectively enforced unless you actually use one in a HD situation. At that point, if it saved your life it was worth it.
 
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