the pistolero wrote:
But if it happened in New York City it'd be all right if I was arrested, since that sort of thing is, basically, strictly forbidden by the law (unless, of course, you have cash and connections), even though for whatever reason I thought it would be best to be armed?
that's the issue here. we live in Texas. this law has no bearing here. that is a simple undisputed fact. i can't live my life in Texas thinking, "I shouldn't do this because it is illegal in New York City."
if you don't think NYC laws are legal then do something about it. dont think that giving your $20 a year to the NRA is doing something, because it isn't. if it was, then please cite what the NRA is
currently doing about the laws in NYC and provide some sort of evidence to establish that they are challenging the legality of said laws that most everyone on here says is unconstitutional.
that goes for everyone on here that says the NYC gun laws are unconstitutional. what are YOU doing to challenge the legality of NYC gun laws, other than typing about it here? paying your annual NRA dues really doesn't qualify unless you can specifically cite a source stating the NRA is actually actively challenging these laws.
i just checked on google and i found no sign that anyone is challenging these NYC gun laws. just babbling on and on on THR about how they are unconstitutional doesn't equate to squat in real life.
here's some websites i looked at. NONE of them say anything about challenging current NYC gun laws:
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Political Action Committee
National Rifle Association
id really like to see something, somewhere, that shows that something is actually being done to question the legality of NYC gun laws.
here are some interesting facts from
Gun Law News:
The Sullivan Act is a New York state law that requires a permit to carry or own any gun small enough to be concealed. Because the permit is issued by local law enforcement, it provides a great deal of local control on firearm availability.
Passed by the New York Senate May 10, 1911
Passed by the New York Assembly May 15, 1911
Signed into law May 29, 1911
In force as of September 1, 1911
amended in 1931 to require finger prints and photographs
The permit requirement is on a per gun basis. The initial fee of $3.00 per gun meant that poor people were immediately priced out of the legal gun market. Although promising to never raise the fee, it now sits at $55.00 per gun and the city takes up to six months.
it has been in effect since 1911 (almost 100 years). if it is so blatantly unconstitutional how come it hasn't been repealed yet? oh yes, THR members say it is the corrupt politicians, cops, and judges that prevent any such lobby, including the NRA, from doing anything about it.
don't just sit here on THR and beat your chest. if you believe this law is unconstitutional then do something about it.
thexrayboy wrote:
As in all groups exceptions exist but as an organization the NYPD can make no claims to brave service without acknowledging all the terrible things that have been done by some their officers.
dave_pro2A wrote:
Playing the 911 card is akin to playing the nazi card.....So take your 911 card and, umm, go get a coke or something.
couldn't agree more. i think thexrayboy is really going out on a limb when he is busy talking trash about the NYPD but has yet to address us on what he specifically has done that could be even used in comparison to the acts of bravery the NYPD as a whole did on 9/11. if he is to question the bravery of the NYPD on 9/11, then he obviously must have a great incident of bravery that he did himself. other than typing on THR.