1858 sticky pin Remmy

[Franco2shoot]

I just cannot seem to keep the pin in my Uberti 1858 Remington from sticking. I use a small dab of bore butter on each cylinder and have a good deal of BB on the pin itself. I can fire the first cylinder (using Goex) without a problem, but the second round usually jams after 3 shots and I need to assist the rotation of the cylinder through the last 3 shots. I use a squirt of Blackpowder cleaner fluid to get the pin out after the second cylinder is fired, and this seems to break loose the stickyness.

I have an 1860 Colt by Pietta, but prefer shooting the Uberti Reminton except for this sticky pin problem... is there an easy solution?

Thanks
KKKKFL

 

[pohill]

I had an Uberti Remington that did the same thing - I now have a Pietta Remington that does not bind at all. I found that lube pills made of beeswax and paraffin (placed over the powder/under the ball) keep the fouling down much better than Bore Butter or Crisco, which reduces the binding.

 

[Franco2shoot]

I've been putting the smidge of BB on top of the ball. I use a bench loader, which I really like, and I am going to try putting the smidge on after the felt pill, then press the ball down, hoping that the grease will be blown into the pin instead of down the bore. Can the Beeswax or Paraffin pills be purchased commercially? I haven't seen them locally.

KKKKFL

 

[pohill]

Paraffin is sold in most grocery stores...I think. Beeswax can be expensive (there are online sites where you can buy it). I bought a small beeswax cake at my hardware store just to see if I really wanted to make the lube pills. Then I got some lube pills from a forum member, Rifle (Wayne). He has a great recipe and they work in hot or cold weather. I have a Paterson that refuses to work after 3 or 4 shots unless it has lube pills over the powder.

I've never used a felt wad.

The problem with the Remingtons is that the cylinder pin doesn't have the grease grooves as the Colt pins do.

The Uberti Remington that I once had was definitely better made than the Pietta that I now have. Externally the Pietta looks great, but the internals of the Pietta are rougher with sharper edges to the metals (and the Pietta grips seem larger). But the Pietta just does not jam due to fouling of the pin.

 

[Misfire99]

If the problem is roughness of the pin that catches the fouling I would chuck it in a drill an use crocus cloth on it. If used properly it will not reduce the size of the pin only polish the pin so it will turn freely. Crocus cloth is not emery paper!! Make sure you have the correct stuff. You can even slot a narrow bolt and run crocus cloth in the slot to polish the inside of the cylinder. Remember you don't want to remove any metal only polish what is there.

 

[sundance44s]

I polish my cylinder pins with 00 steelwool , and the pin spinning in my drill...it does help , one tip though after cleaning your pistol be careful what type of oil you put on the pin ...wd40 will get sticky with B/P fouling while shooting ..I`ve always used oliveoil or crisco and beeswax ...anything food grade works....petroleum base oils get sticky and gummy when mixed with fouling and will make things bind up quick ...forget most oils you`ve used on your modern smokeless guns.

 

[Franco2shoot]

Here's the range report from this weekend.

Test was to use a small dab of Gun butter underneath ball but ahead of a lube pill.. Previously, I put the small dab on top of the ball.

Results... the pin could be removed with no Hammering after 2 cylinders fired using Goex pellets with minor rotational wiggling. So this technique is a definite improvement. The lubricant I use is 1/2 Bore butter, 1/4 Burt's beeswax, and 1/4 Olive oil.

With the lube on top of the ball, on firing the juice went down the barrel out the bore. Putting it underneath, the lube gets blasted around the face of the cylinder, with some getting blown into the pin. This results in less Powder residue, and more grease.

Next step will be to try polishing the pin with steel wool, but it seems to be getting better, especially as I learn where the stickiness is coming from.

KKKKFL

 

[K.A.T.]

Lube pills

I use the same lube pills that Pohill uses, never have any problems. I started out using them in all 4 pistols, no problems with any of them, no binding, no chainfires. I tried the felt wads just to see, the lube pills gave me better accuracy, so I've never looked for anything else.

 

[Franco2shoot]

Is there a commercial vendor that sells Lube Pills?

The felt wads I purchased are supposedly lubed, but they feel like normal felt to me. I suppose I could dump these felt wads in my formerly Alzoid tin that contains my own personal wax/BB/Olive oil mixture, stir them around now that I know grease needs to be between the powder and the ball.
KKKKFL

 

[Shotgun Willy]

When I was making my first batch of lube pills I used too much canola oil and it came out about twice as firm as crisco. Didn't work for lube pills but it makes a heck of a good general lube. I put some down the center hole of my Remmy and on the pin both. I've had no fouling troubles doing it this way, and that's with putting nothing on top of, or under, the balls.