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1860 ARMY & Conical Bullets?

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Bayou Runner, Aug 16, 2008.

  1. Bayou Runner

    Bayou Runner Active Member

    Seems I've read here that Walkers have used a conical called a Picket. Don't recall reading any old or new history on conicals and the 1860. What's out there?
  2. arcticap

    arcticap Well-Known Member

    After the round ball is rammed and it's "swaged in" into the chamber with its diameter shaved off, doesn't it become a conical? :D
  3. Bayou Runner

    Bayou Runner Active Member

    I was born at nite...but not last nite!
  4. possum_128

    possum_128 Well-Known Member

    What's a boolit?????:what:
  5. Voodoochile

    Voodoochile Well-Known Member

    Both Colt & Remington had their version of a conical bullet that was used with their paper wrapped preloaded cartridges for both the .36 & .44 calibers.

    The Lee bullet that they offer a mold for in . 36 & .44 caliber is a simple round nose configuration similar to but not exact to the designs of the time which most were more pointed.

    They do make the C&B revolver a bit more effective but slightly harder to load.
  6. Smokin_Gun

    Smokin_Gun Well-Known Member

    Great description Voodoochile was gonna mention Lee molds and Boolits ... just to add these are heeled boolits reduced at the base to enable flat, straight, proper seating when rammed home.

    Last edited: Aug 17, 2008
  7. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    You asked what a picket bullet was or looked like? Scroll down after you click the link right
    Here. Looks a bit like a 18-19th century sugar cone.
  8. Sunray

    Sunray Well-Known Member

    What's 'nite'? That the same as 'night'?
    "...doesn't it become a conical?..." Nope.
  9. sharps59

    sharps59 Well-Known Member

    boolit is some ones dream of a bullet. or some one that can't spell bullet
  10. Smokin_Gun

    Smokin_Gun Well-Known Member

    Boolit, is how the word Bullet is usually phonetically pronounced if you listen closely and are not from the upper Eastern Coast.
    Boolit is a Cowboy, Hillbilly, Western, Southern, Great Plains, Midwestern, not so Yankee speakin', slang term for a Bullet.:what:

    Last edited: Aug 17, 2008
  11. scrat

    scrat Well-Known Member

    slugs is better than boooolit
  12. Mike 56

    Mike 56 Well-Known Member

    This Yankee likes boolit better than bullet or slug.

  13. scrat

    scrat Well-Known Member

    let me see if i can say this correctly.

    Here lyes less more. 2 slugs from a 44 less no more
  14. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    I thought it was:

    Here lyes Les more
    2 slugs from a 44
    no Less no more
  15. Bayou Runner

    Bayou Runner Active Member

    LEE looks like what I'm lookin for.

    SG, Voodoo, & 4v50, if that LEE 452 BP boolit is heeled like it looks, it shouldn't be too triflin hard to load in my 1860 pie eater. I plan on contacting them tomorrow and see if I can get some specs. Then to Midway for the mould. Got some ideas I want to work with on it. Anybody read Backwoodsman? Then you'll know what I'm thinking on. Thanks also for the explanation on the proper way to say bullet. Ole' Less didn't need no more than 2 boolits from a 44. Don't imagine there'd be many out there that would!
  16. RecoilRob

    RecoilRob Well-Known Member

    Lester Moore...

    The tombstone and me...

    Attached Files:

  17. Marlin 45 carbine

    Marlin 45 carbine Well-Known Member

    Bayou Runner you may have to use a loading stand to load them. I have a '58 Rem they load in easily but some of the '51 fellers say the .44 won't fit the slugs under the ram. of course this is the .44 version of the original which was a .36. don't remember anyone saying about the '60 though. I'd say that you will like them. a max load in my '58 blew thru a jack pine that stopped a 125gr SJHP .357.
  18. pohill

    pohill Well-Known Member

    That's why the South lost the war - by the time you got out the sentence, "y'all betta duck, there's a booooooooooooooolit a comin' yer way," it was too late.

    "There ya go agin, neva can make you happy..." Stumpy in RIO BRAVO.
    Oh yeah, Walter Brennan was from MA.
  19. Mike 56

    Mike 56 Well-Known Member

    I don't know about a 60 Colt but you can load them in in a 51 Colt with the loading arm. Put the Lee Boolit in on a angle and push it down with your thumb an till you can get it under the loading ram. It is a pain but you can do it. Before i bought my cylinder loading stand i found it was easier to bench load the cylinder with short starter than to use the loading arm when loading boolits.

  20. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

    Thank you Recoil Rob for that photographic evidence correcting us on our faulty memory. :D

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