ctdonath
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Funny, just having them is usually enough to prevent needing them.Happily, they weren’t.
Funny, just having them is usually enough to prevent needing them.Happily, they weren’t.
just like they have in iraq?If these few individuals stood up with their “individual rights” against the trained and ruthless enforcers deployed against them by a police state, they would be branded outlaws or “terrorists”, demonized by the big media, deserted by their fellow citizens, and quickly picked off and packed off to morgues or detention centers.
i don't think it was easy to "rally the troops" at any time in history. most people aren't soldiers and have no desire to be... just because we see unfriendly neighbors today doesn't mean there weren't any before, just because it's more frequent today doesn't say much either, there are more people today, frequently living in closer proximity.Have you actually gone out to your neighbors and asked them about that? Not just the guys you go shoot with on weekends but the family next door or the one across the street. Considering the way neighborhoods are these days, I’d be surprised if you even know all of them so why should I believe you’ll all watch each others’ backs?
which governemnt is the question... remember the militia were formed to fight the british, technically until we won the war there was no official or sanctioned united states. if the brits pwned us, would we not be singing a different tune? that's why it's all carefully worded, "well regulated."Besides which, the MILITIA was and has always been an arm of government. I have no idea where some of you folks got the idea that the militia is something you can just create on your own authority. In the case of the Revolution, the militias were formed by rebel GOVERNMENTS, in each of the colonies and by the Continental Congress. Votes were taken, representatives chosen, and sovereign authority was reclaimed, all under the rule of law--albeit a new law not recognized by the Brits. In the case of the War of 1812, the militias were again raised by the GOVERNMENTS of the invaded states to repel the British. And in the case of the CW, the militias again were organized by the GOVERNMENTS of the states involved. Nobody just grabbed a rifle and marched off under his own orders.
c'mon... the times hardly demand it. when the times come the people will muster.We don't have many like that any more and the numbers are dropping daily. After the hue and cry following the O.C. bombing, the few militias that were viable died with barely a whimper. Even now there are people (even on this board) who are willing to denigrate the militia as a band of "criminals."
which governemnt is the question... remember the militia were formed to fight the british, technically until we won the war there was no official or sanctioned united states.
According to the lawful government in place at the time though, they were nothing but a bunch of treasonous rebels, fodder for a hanging tree unless they could be shot first. The majority of the Continental Congress had prices on their heads.
'When they came for the Branch Davidians I said nothing.....'
Nor should they expect to change anything until they organize and pose a serious physical threat to the status quo.
There was a sanctioned and official Continental Congress, as well as sanctioned and official local and state governments. They just weren't sanctioned by the British.
Well put."If you take your long gun out on your front lawn, and your neighbors do too, then it is time. Otherwise, go back inside."
Those tactics worked well for the Vietnamese, I'm sure it would work for us with our massive amount of square mileage.