1911 micro compact pros & cons

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I'm looking at a 3 inch 1911 as a backup carry piece to my springer gi.

but as always i wanted some opinions on some of the micro models out there.

i know nothing about them.

i like the kimbers so far but havent looked at much else.
 
I have a Springfield micro compact black stainless loaded. It works now after I polished the chamber, feed ramp and breech face, and replacing the extractor.It will now work with remington or hornady hoolowpoints,and cast swc. after every 50 rounds or so I have to peen metal back into the slide lock cut on the slide or it wont lock. maybe a kimber would have been a better choice. Randall
 
LittleGuns

Seen some hit the ground runnin' and never quit. Seen more that tend to be a mite persnickety. Tweakable...but persnickety.

Now for the Just My Tuppence Worth...

Most of the problems seem to stem from the slides bein' oversprung. Not an
indication that you need to start whackin' the recoil spring off without checkin' other things first...but that's been my experience so far.

I also think that the reverse-plug, dual recoil spring system...along with the heavier barrel coned barrels are probably the best thing that's been done to the chopped 1911 variants to date. The King's recoil system is a good one for these guns, but the inner spring is a bit much as delivered. Whenever
tuning the spring to the gun...the inner spring is the one to tend to. Leave the outer, heavier spring alone.

Here's hopin' ya get a good one!

Cheers!
 
I have a Para Carry, 6.45 model with a 3" barrel which is also an LDA model. I have had absolutely no problems with it.

As long as you test it with the ammo you want to use, I don't think you will have any problems with a modern day 3" variant of the 1911. If you do, use the warranty.
 
I had a Micro, you can read all about it here.

Long story short, when you make a 1911 smaller or tighter, you reduce the reliability.

The only people I think should have Micros are the people I'm going to be in a gunfight with.

Good luck! :cool:
 
I bought one for a friend/employee, a parked loaded steel model produced a couple of years ago. It needed throat/polish job, chamber and extractor work to be reliable ($40.00 in these woods) but now functions perfectly.
 
The only people I think should have Micros are the people I'm going to be in a gunfight with.

Well, then there are guys like me with Springfield Armory Micro-Compacts (mine is the Lightweight Loaded Bi-Tone) that function perfectly ... not one failure in the last 2200 rounds fired. No tweaking whatsoever was required. I trust my Micro completely and carry it often (although I normally carry a Commander-length 1911). By the way, mine is incredibly accurate, too ...
 
My Kimber Ultra Carry has been a paragon of reliability. I thought it had some problems early on that turned out to be operator error, i.e. limp-wristing. It's light for its size and needs a firm grip. Once I fugured that out, Its been flawless, and scary accurate, too. It eats everything, but seems happiest with 185 gr std pressure JHP stuff, or Federal 165 gr. PD ammo. HTH
 
Not for me

Nothing less than commander length for me to carry and trust with my well being.

Worked on too many, too much problem just getting them acceptable. Some went back to manufacturer more than once. Yes there were exceptions, and some of you probably have one of the exceptions--but you go ahead, I'll wait here :)
 
I have a Kimber Ultra Carry CDP (Series I)

Been perfectly reliable from day one. Scary accurate. Light. Great little gun.
I've heard all the problems lots of people have with 3" guns and don't disregard them, but it hasn't been my experience....of course this is one gun.

I haven't tried others.

Smoke
 
have a Kimber Ultra Carry CDP (Series I)

Been perfectly reliable from day one. Scary accurate. Light. Great little gun.
I've heard all the problems lots of people have with 3" guns and don't disregard them, but it hasn't been my experience....of course this is one gun.

I haven't tried others.

Smoke

I'll second that. I asked the question in another thread about what the deal is with the springs. I was trying to think of how many thousand rounds I have put through mine with no problems except for a bad mag.

This leads me to a question. How can handguns that are virtually indistinguishable from one another, function (as far as reliability) so differently?
 
What i don't understand is why a compact? So we give up barrel length, sight radius, and most possibly reliability due to the more severe angles the barrel has to make and for what gain? A little weight? When I conceal a 1911 it is the butt that is at issue, I could care less about how much barrel there is. So, I've often wondered how i'd like a 5" gun with the grip cut down to officer's or less length.
 
that'd be an interesting but funny looking concept.

i think shooting it might be a little difficult with the full length slide and barrel but the short grip.

still I'd try it.

My butt sticks out too. Been trying to fix that. ;) :D
 
They're awesome, Dude!! I have a Springfield V10 Ultra and love it. It's great for concealed carry. Like Tuner said, sometimes a shorty needs to be tweaked but that's about it. They are NOT inherently unreliable.
 
Another Springer Mico owner

I'll add one more story to this poll. I've bought a loaded micro compact 6 mo. ago (with AL frame) that works reliably with two caveats:
1. I had to break in the gun and supplied magazines to 500 rounds before the last round would stop giving a nose down jam, at the occurance of one about every 4th mag. I bought two Wilson mags and they didn't miss a beat. :)
2. 200gr and lighter hollowpoints can get "captured" on the frame cuts for the feed ramp (While on the feed ramp. Did I mention this gun has a feed ramp?) when hand shucking the first round into the chamber. Applying a little more force to the slide will chamber the round. This has also eased up some with break in but can still occur with a light touch. When recoil operated, they work fine.

Accuracy is very good, but the sights are low for me. 8" low at 25 yards with WW ball ammo. Of course, since it's light and small it bucks more than my full size 1911, but makes an easy carry.
 
Have 3 3 inchers, all first versions. The Kimber and Colt are extremely reliable, the Kimber is very accurate.

Decided i wanting a 3 incher with steel frame, and bought a SA Micro mil-spec, the early version with night sites, beavertail and skeleton trigger. While as accurate as the Kimber, was very disappointed.

1-Chamber was rough and tight.
2-extractor was garbage.
3-recoil spring assembly was garbage and disassemblied early on.
4-pistol shot 1 foot low at 25 yards with the fixed sights.
5-Liked the idea of barrel with feed ramp, but would have preferred one with without a slight dip in the ramp. The ramp on th SA appears to be steeper than a PA owned, and has no dip in the ramp.
6-Mag supplied with pistol was worthless.
7-Pistol will not eject loaded round longer than 1.260, it needs the front ejection cut out , like Kimber and Colt use.
8-Am also having problems with the slide lock cut out, as 1911 Tuner indicated, maybe related to putting in heavier spring. Am highly suspicious this area was not heat treated, and have put in heavier springs in many 1911's (including the Defender and Ultra carry), with no problems.

Have kept the pistol , because of it's accuracy potential. Fixed most of the problems, excepting the slide lock cut out. Am worried will have to replace the slide?
 
Yup, and from what I've gathered, the .45 ACP chambering losses alot of power too?

Not enough to worry about. No way are you under-gunned with a shorty .45.
 
Yup, and from what I've gathered, the .45 ACP chambering losses alot of power too?

No idea.

To test it, it would have had to function, and it wasn't running when I got rid of it.
 
There is someone here that always likes to slam the chopped 1911's as unreliable but if you go to 1911forum.com and do a search the very same person has a full size that gave them problems as well.

You will also see post after post about full size and commander length guns that don't function.

The little guns are an easy targets and when they don't run everyone points to the fact that they are "too tight" or not as the 1911 was originally designed. Fact is like every other model/style of 1911 there are going to be lemons and if you get one it is a pain to deal with.

Mine isn't a lemon and I carry it which means I bet my life on it. You may get a good one, you may be a bad one - but the same is true of every other style of 1911.

Good luck with your purchase no matter what you decide to buy.
 
I have had the granddaddy of all micro 1911s for years -- a Detonics .45 I bought while stationed at Ft. Lewis, WA in '77. Out of the box, had some failures to feed, so took it up to the factory in Seattle, where they did a full throat job on it. Also slicked up the trigger.

It has been utterly reliable ever since -- probably have somewhere near 7,000 rds through it, since I used to teach pistol range for the Army CID, and got all the ball .45 I wanted to shoot free. Used to shoot 200 or so rds every day at lunch. :D

No wear issues. Heavy little beast, 'cause it's all steel. Accurate? Got several 25 yd 1-hole groups when I braced sandbags on the barricades. :what:

Finest concealable weapon ever made, IMHO. I now carry a Taurus PT-145, which is only slightly larger, weighs about the same, but carrys 11 rds. It's just as reliable, but not quite as accurate.
 
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