mljdeckard
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The only Nighthawk I ever shot jammed.
Don't tell Chris Costa that.The only Nighthawk I ever shot jammed.
I give examples I know, which cover a decent spectrum. I will not carry them.
The only Nighthawk I ever shot jammed.
I'm going by platform, and those guns that I've experienced within the means of "mass produced".The thing to remember is that if one's experience with any given make and model is only one or two guns then it is actually statistically pretty meaningless. Even if one had a sample of five or even ten of the same make and model it would be a pretty meaningless sample size. You'd need to have hundreds of randomly selected guns, 250 would be a good start and 400 or so would be much better. I'm going to guess you've not, handled let alone used extensively, hundreds of any given make, let alone model. Am I wrong? I know I haven't. This is a big part of why I'm most concerned with the actual gun in hand
Don't get me wrong I've seen particular guns that have really rattled my confidence in a model or maker, but its important to keep perspective. The same can be said to those that tout a model based on the relatively minute sample sizes most of us see. This is why I put a little more weight in the opinions of those that get to see hundreds and hundreds of guns run hard in substantially similar circumstances.
If a pistol costs several hundred more for a reputable made gun vs a mass produced, poorly or rarely QCd gun, it isn't better?I have 2 Rock Island pistols, a full size Tactical and a compact model. Both are reliable for me to carry. I am 5'10", 145 lbs and don't have any problem concealing either one. I haven't had any problems out of either one. As far as price, just because a pistol costs $1500-$2000 doesn't make it any better than a $500 pistol.
Absolutely my preferred carry gun.
But, some vastly less than others. I'll take those, thank you.The only reason I mentioned the Nighthawk jamming was to point out that the law of diminishing returns applies to 1911s in particular. Everything fails sooner or later.
And I've used cheap Turkish 1911s that were more trustworthy than Rocks. Because your one Rock suits you doesn't sell me or erase my experience.Fit and finish is better on more expensive guns, but that doesn't mean that they won't have problems either. You get good and bad from all manufacturers regardless of price. If I had my choice, I'd have the old 'rattle battle' I carried during Desert Storm- 100% reliable even in sand.
I can give 1 example of an expensive 1911 being a lemon. I went shooting with a buddy, me with my Rock and him with his Wilson. His pistol definitely had better fit and finish but did not shoot any better and he had a lot of failure to eject/stovepipe problems. My Rock didn't have 1 single hiccup.
No I'm not saying that a $500 gun has near the fit/finish as a more expensive gun, but price does not always mean reliability
But, some vastly less than others. I'll take those, thank you.
See post 81 and 89. I was asked my opinion, same as you.What exactly are you basing this on? I'm not saying it is or is not the case. However, what is your bases, specifics please, for this assertion? You singular experience with a RIA is no more or less meaningful than someone else's or someone's with any other model.
Its not very helpful to just assert something fails vastly more often with out backing that assertion up with anything.
My basis is that even what some would consider good 1911s fail, more so than those made by a knowledgable pistol smith
And I've owned enough to have a qualm about carrying one.My notes? I have no clue. I don't have enough experience with them.
What magazines?I've had several Rugers fail, had friends with the R1 of which one of two was problematic. Seen at least a half dozen RIAs at the range at one time. Most hiccuped.
What magazines?
What ammo?
What maintenance schedule?
Were they bubba-gunsmithed with a dremel to "polish 'er up reel good"?
Are you really going to trust something based on the rollmark on the side or the initial design, rather than doing your own reliability testing?