Kingofthehill
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I haven't even seen the SR1911 yet but the R1 was the biggest POS 1911 ive owned. SO very glad i got rid of that in a trade.
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1911 R1 vs SR 1911
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Smaug
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Between those two, I'd go with the Ruger, if you like the color scheme. I don't mind it, but I wouldn't say I like it either.
I was looking for one that was as close to the military 1911 as possible as far as bling goes.
I was about ready to buy a Parkerized Kahr 1911 or a Springfield Mil Spec. But my LGS didn't have the Mil Spec; only the next model up. Nicer finish and grips. But at the last minute, I saw the Para GI Expert next to it. It was $80 less expensive, had a better finish, (baked on powdercoat instead of parkerized) better mags, (stainless 8 rounders instead of parkerized 7 rounders) better front sight. (dovetailed in, more visible dots) It was a good buy at $550. I think they're even less on Bud's.
Here it is alongside my Daly Hi-Power:
One of my first targets with it:
If you don't like that model, check out the other Paras. They make a nice gun; they just don't advertise like Springfield Armory does.
I was looking for one that was as close to the military 1911 as possible as far as bling goes.
I was about ready to buy a Parkerized Kahr 1911 or a Springfield Mil Spec. But my LGS didn't have the Mil Spec; only the next model up. Nicer finish and grips. But at the last minute, I saw the Para GI Expert next to it. It was $80 less expensive, had a better finish, (baked on powdercoat instead of parkerized) better mags, (stainless 8 rounders instead of parkerized 7 rounders) better front sight. (dovetailed in, more visible dots) It was a good buy at $550. I think they're even less on Bud's.
Here it is alongside my Daly Hi-Power:
One of my first targets with it:
If you don't like that model, check out the other Paras. They make a nice gun; they just don't advertise like Springfield Armory does.
JTQ
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I don't think I'd buy either, but if I had to, I'd pick the Ruger. There are other makers with a much longer history of producing successful 1911's.
Some are critical of Ruger semi-autos, but at least they have some experience making them. This is the only handgun in the entire Remington line-up (not counting bolt action models). I would be hesitant to go in that direction.
Some are critical of Ruger semi-autos, but at least they have some experience making them. This is the only handgun in the entire Remington line-up (not counting bolt action models). I would be hesitant to go in that direction.
Quack
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this was on my first outing with the R1 and the first target that i shot at 15 yards.
The 4 high shots were me seeing what the POA/POI would be.
The first magazine out of the R1 at 7 yards.
The other targets were from a friends brother that we took out to teach how to shoot.
The 4 high shots were me seeing what the POA/POI would be.
The first magazine out of the R1 at 7 yards.
The other targets were from a friends brother that we took out to teach how to shoot.
GhostyDan
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any info on the mil spec?
Quack
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What do you want to know?
GhostyDan
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is it a good gun compared to the ruger and R1 or better
Quack
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The Ruger has no track record yet. I chose the R1 because it was better fit than the mil-specs that I've looked at and shoots better than my friends mil-spec. I recently picked up an older mil-spec that was made before 2002 and is fit better than the ones I looked at over a 6 month span.
GhostyDan
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cool thanks
btw it pretty much boils down to im looking for the best 1911 for under $700
btw it pretty much boils down to im looking for the best 1911 for under $700
Quack
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Pick the one that is put together well.
Missileman
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I have had an R1 for 9 months and I love it.
Just a bit of info. Contrary to what the "internet" says, the Remington 1911 are 100% American made in NY. This has been stated by Remington on several occasions, but the rumor persists. It is tight and very accurate. It has a match grade stainless barrel. There have been some complaints about the trigger having a bit of creep, some not all. Mine had it. Remington fixed it free and fast. It was gritty and quite dirty from the factory. Cleaned and lubed it properly and it is smooth as glass. Slide and rails still look like brand new. Not much visible wear yet and mine has over 5K rounds. It is a tack driver shooter. I shot an 8 round clip into a standard silhouette at 75 yards. All were lethal, head, neck, and mostly center mass. Everybody who has shot it really likes it. All the workers at the range I go to come in an shoot a clip or two anytime I have it there. I also shoot my loads a little hot because I like the full experience when shooting. I usually load 200gr to about 1050-1100 ft/sec. Gun shoots them just fine and by the 1000's. It's still as tight as the day it came from the plant.
It really bothers me when people just continually claim knowledge about something that they heard from the cousin of a guy in Korea who told him his uncle in Australia told him how this gun sucks or is made of z-metal, etc.... In fact for the money, it's a damn good shooter, and well made. Are they all perfect? Of course not, but easily the majority are good guns.
Here's the very first clip fired from my R1 5". The low shot was first since most of my guns shoot 6 o'clock picture. Rest kinda went where they belong. This was 10 yards standing free hand:
And this was a shot after i put a set of Rosewood grips on it
Like quack says. Your pick. Pick what fits your taste, your shooting style, and most of all, your budget.
Just a bit of info. Contrary to what the "internet" says, the Remington 1911 are 100% American made in NY. This has been stated by Remington on several occasions, but the rumor persists. It is tight and very accurate. It has a match grade stainless barrel. There have been some complaints about the trigger having a bit of creep, some not all. Mine had it. Remington fixed it free and fast. It was gritty and quite dirty from the factory. Cleaned and lubed it properly and it is smooth as glass. Slide and rails still look like brand new. Not much visible wear yet and mine has over 5K rounds. It is a tack driver shooter. I shot an 8 round clip into a standard silhouette at 75 yards. All were lethal, head, neck, and mostly center mass. Everybody who has shot it really likes it. All the workers at the range I go to come in an shoot a clip or two anytime I have it there. I also shoot my loads a little hot because I like the full experience when shooting. I usually load 200gr to about 1050-1100 ft/sec. Gun shoots them just fine and by the 1000's. It's still as tight as the day it came from the plant.
It really bothers me when people just continually claim knowledge about something that they heard from the cousin of a guy in Korea who told him his uncle in Australia told him how this gun sucks or is made of z-metal, etc.... In fact for the money, it's a damn good shooter, and well made. Are they all perfect? Of course not, but easily the majority are good guns.
Here's the very first clip fired from my R1 5". The low shot was first since most of my guns shoot 6 o'clock picture. Rest kinda went where they belong. This was 10 yards standing free hand:
And this was a shot after i put a set of Rosewood grips on it
Like quack says. Your pick. Pick what fits your taste, your shooting style, and most of all, your budget.
How many words a minute can that remington type, they made typwritters you know then sewing machines, it's a pretty interesting story
http://www.sewalot.com/remington_sewing_machine.htm
But once you get in that range you are treading on thin ice, with much competition, so it better be a great pistol. I was just about to plunk down 400 on a mil spec Rock Island, another hundred gets you the tactical or your in taurus springfield territoy, then the ruger right there in the 5-600 range, from there it's a 100 to a kimber colt bla bla, so it would make sense that being the economy stinks we should see some pretty good deals going forward.Now Sig has some offerings in CDNN at the 6-7 hundred range in their 1911 guns, which I know nothing about, any 1911 sig guys here?
I have had 2 paras the p10 and p13, they both wre exellent, never had a problem with them, but their customer service sucks from my gun store guy, who buys a lot of stuff from them he couldn't get his own gun finished, "custom" 3 months of bull and he canclled and got a beautiful smith custom shop made to his specs for 3 hundred less in one week, they bent over backwards and he's a small shop, but has a lot of comp shooters.
http://www.sewalot.com/remington_sewing_machine.htm
But once you get in that range you are treading on thin ice, with much competition, so it better be a great pistol. I was just about to plunk down 400 on a mil spec Rock Island, another hundred gets you the tactical or your in taurus springfield territoy, then the ruger right there in the 5-600 range, from there it's a 100 to a kimber colt bla bla, so it would make sense that being the economy stinks we should see some pretty good deals going forward.Now Sig has some offerings in CDNN at the 6-7 hundred range in their 1911 guns, which I know nothing about, any 1911 sig guys here?
I have had 2 paras the p10 and p13, they both wre exellent, never had a problem with them, but their customer service sucks from my gun store guy, who buys a lot of stuff from them he couldn't get his own gun finished, "custom" 3 months of bull and he canclled and got a beautiful smith custom shop made to his specs for 3 hundred less in one week, they bent over backwards and he's a small shop, but has a lot of comp shooters.
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GhostyDan
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im been looking into the ruger more. any more info on it like where to buy it or anything to watch out for?
GhostyDan
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anything else?
KMO
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Only the Ruger is stamped, "Made in Prescott, Arizona" on the side of the slide. That seals it...case closed...Ruger, hands down...
Remington has a new 1911 model now. It has more custom features then the R1. It dose cost more the the standard R1. I still think the Ruger is a better choice though. Like said before I'm waiting for any bugs to be worked out, which seems to be a smart move with anything new from Ruger these days.
GhostyDan
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thanks for all the suggestions guys they helped alot but somthings come up. im an AK guy and i hear that saiga 12 s may not be here much longer. so i might have to get one first ,but the 1911 is next i hope
Skylerbone
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I did read and later confirm that the Ruger's plunger tube is integral to the frame rather than a staked part. It may not matter to most but should it ever be damaged (crack under stress or dropped) it will take some work and the proper tools to fit a new one.
That said, I have no experience with either. I've heard more compliments on the STIs and RIAs than their price points ought to allow and the same goes for both their service departments. I'm a bit underwhelmed at what I've heard about cs at Taurus and Para.
For around $750 you ought to be able to get in to a Colt or S&W (either new) and a tad more if you're interested in a Sig. Three more great options in my opinion though only the Colt will be a "traditional" 1911 as the other 2 sport external extractors. The other + to the Colt is of course the new rollmark for this year only announcing "100 Years of Service".
Your choice, lots of solid options and values to be had.
That said, I have no experience with either. I've heard more compliments on the STIs and RIAs than their price points ought to allow and the same goes for both their service departments. I'm a bit underwhelmed at what I've heard about cs at Taurus and Para.
For around $750 you ought to be able to get in to a Colt or S&W (either new) and a tad more if you're interested in a Sig. Three more great options in my opinion though only the Colt will be a "traditional" 1911 as the other 2 sport external extractors. The other + to the Colt is of course the new rollmark for this year only announcing "100 Years of Service".
Your choice, lots of solid options and values to be had.
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