.22lr MEGATHREAD
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sniper69
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Saturday night (almost midnight - literally 2354 was the time on my cell phone) I was at one of the local walmarts with my wife shopping for other things. I walked by the sporting goods area and saw 7 or 8 boxes of Remington standard velocity in the locked ammo case, 50 rd boxes of .22 LR. Limit of 3 so I bought 3 of them (this is in one of only a couple of walmarts in the area that sells ammo 24 hours a day). I was surprised to see it, and checked brassbadger and it didn't show that particular store having any stock of .22. Did I need to buy it? NO, but I bought it because I could. 
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And some specific subsets of arbitrage are scalping, profiteering, price gouging....
There's a lot of things I don't like but also understand that there's nothing 'wrong' with.
If you don't like the term scalper, that's an issue you have to deal with, not me. And why do you think it's name calling? It's simply a term used to describe an particular action. Any negative meaning only comes from yourself if that's how you choose to feel about it, not because I personally don't like the act it describes. I don't like it when a person abuses drugs, but are you offended when I call that person a drug addict? Is it 'name calling'?
BTW, I have talked with a manager at my local Walmart about how to alleviate the scalper/hoarder problem; simply stock the ammo and random times. If no one knows when the product will be on the shelves, no one can systematically by up all the stock. Unfortunately, he said they didn't want to deal with the 'side affects' of doing that, which I can understand (e.g. keeping it a secret when the ammo comes it, etc...).
He may not do that because he secretly knows it won't solve the problem.
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I completely agree about the employee tipping people off (although I will point out that limits don't help with this problem but alas, Walmart has them). But I also know it's not the only problem.
The last thing I'll say on this matter is that there's a lot of reasons why .22LR are of short supply at shops (yes, scalpers and hoarders are part of it). I know there are measures that can be taken to help with this, but I also know that implementing these measures may not be worth the effort in the long run. I am optimistic that supply will get back to an equilibrium sooner than later.
Yes, the limits do help with that.
With no limits you'd only have to tip off a single person who could get there at just the right time and buy all of it at once. That would be much easier than a few boxes per.
That's true - I think what some folks don't or forget to realize is there is more than one problem here. If Walmart employees tip off their buddies when the ammo is in, I guess there's really nothing you can do about that, but I often beat them to the store.
The big(er) problem is when employees play games with the ammo in order to supply their buddies - hiding ammo under the counter, denying it's in stock (only to have someone up the chain bring it out from the warehouse), and telling customers there is none, only to sell some to the next customer that walks up (which happens to be one of their buddies).
I've seen all three happen on numerous occasions.
If you've got insiders at work, putting ammo out at various times of the day will not only NOT solve the problem (they may now have the flexibility / discretion to keep the ammo in back until their buddies arrive), but it will also deny folks like me (non-insiders) the chance at it, since I and other non-insiders would never know when it was being put out.
As I've told other outsiders like myself, all you can do is show up at 7am (or earlier) when the ammo is supposed to be rolled out. If you don't have some way of finding out when the ammo has arrived, you're still wasting your time, as you can arrive at 6:45am every morning for weeks with nothing arriving - the day it does arrive, when you roll in at 6:45am, you'll then find a line of insiders have beat you there, as they've been given a "heads up" on the day the ammo has arrived.
roval
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ammo certainly coming back
Checked the local Wal-Mart this am and found 22lr. only allowed 3 boxes so got 1 box of Winchester m22 1000 rds for $50 and 2 325 federal auto target for $18. Still had 1more box of 1000 rds and 4-5 of federal target and 5 golden bullet 225 rds left on the shelves but was gone later that day.
Checked the local Wal-Mart this am and found 22lr. only allowed 3 boxes so got 1 box of Winchester m22 1000 rds for $50 and 2 325 federal auto target for $18. Still had 1more box of 1000 rds and 4-5 of federal target and 5 golden bullet 225 rds left on the shelves but was gone later that day.
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I don't necessarily think 15 boxes on the shelf and then quickly gone is a sign of the end.
I have seen .22 on line as low as $.05rd for Fed and two places had cases 3250rd and 5000rd for $.09rd, can't remember for sure what they were, one was Golden Bullets. Didn't need or WANT what they had at that price, or for that matter ANY price. Kinda picky when it comes to .22 ammo. More crap ammo is just that...crap ammo.
Panzerschwein
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Last time I was home the Wal Mart had hundreds of boxes of Federal .22 lr ammo in the dark red 50 round boxes. I was SHOCKED, this local Wal Mart in particular has always seemed to have the shelves packed when I've gone.
I can't figure out how or why people wait in lines to buy one ( or three ) boxes of ammo. Even if they scalp it, they paid 25-30, sell it for 70? That's $40 profit for how much gas and time. I just don't have the time and / or energy to waste. I shoot several 1000 rds/year and will never let my supply drop below 10,000rds anymore. Have 2 cases on back order right now.
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Better, but far from good. IMO, 'good' will mean that when I go into Walmart, I'll see 22lr on the shelves most of the time. Not just occasionally when I happen to get lucky.
MagnunJoe
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In south Florida things are NOT looking much better than 6 months ago or a year ago.
sounds like you are on line every morning when they open
MachIVshooter
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Rimfire situation still sucks here on the CO front range, but there's all the brass cased 5.56 we want at $0.33-$0.36/rd.
Personally, I prefer reasonably priced centerfire with crappy rimfire availability to the situation we had with $1/rd (or higher) 5.56 and 9mm going at $600/case. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy my .22s & .22 mags, but not nearly as much as ARs and real handguns.
Personally, I prefer reasonably priced centerfire with crappy rimfire availability to the situation we had with $1/rd (or higher) 5.56 and 9mm going at $600/case. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy my .22s & .22 mags, but not nearly as much as ARs and real handguns.
I think the best barometer of ammo availability is what people are willing to pay on the auction sites. There is lots of overpriced .22 ammo on Gunbroker without bids right now. Also, higher cost rimfire target/competition grade ammo is now staying on the shelf, where a few months ago people would buy it up just because it was all they could find.
Gun Master
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Do you know how much their limits are (re: "Limits Will Apply") ?
Is this just one store?
Hopefully this is (or will become Wally's new policy) .
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Reloadron
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For the past two years they have had a limit of 3 boxes of ammo but I can't say what this limit might be. This is the only Walmart I go in on a regular basis so I can't say if it is local or regional.
I too think this is a good way to control who gets the ammo rather than having employees dole it out like they want(assuming that is happening). Maybe the hoarders/scalpers and their minions will line up at 5 AM and get first dibs.
I can promise that I won't be there on Saturday morning.
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