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.270 and 6.5x55?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by browncoatdawn, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. browncoatdawn

    browncoatdawn Well-Known Member

    I am looking for impressions on both, .270 win and 6.5x55 swedish.

    I have noticed a LOT of used, in excellent condition .270 win cal rifles around here for sale at reasonable prices. There are several Win model 70's on the rack at 2 of the shops I have been to here lately. I have gathered that the round must be quite good, but I have never shot one, and know nobody who has one. There are no ranges around that rent anything really, and that's sad.
    So what are they like? Recoil? Round performance?
    I don't plan on hunting with it as of right now, but if I did, it would be Iowa deer, or perhaps hog if I take a trip down south. Other than that, I just like to have choices, and ammo is widely available for this cal.

    My other questions are similar, about the 6.5x55mm swedish round,
    I won't hunt anything but paper with this, but I understand it's a military round, and available in some surplus rifles. I happen to love C&R firearms, and am about to file for my C&R license soon. I just want to know what to expect from this.

    I see many well seasoned shooters here, with a wide variety of experiences, so I'm asking the questions here.

    Thanks all,
  2. GJgo

    GJgo Well-Known Member

    In the most basic terms I'd say the 270 kicks harder, but it's also easier to get ammo for if you don't reload. Either will take deer no problem. I'd vote 270 if you're only going to have one game rifle, and the Swede if you're into having multiple calibers.
  3. 303tom

    303tom member

    My .270 kicks harder than my Swede, they both work great on everything up to moose. I buy most all my ammo from Midway & they always seem to have a great selection of both. I can get 6.6x55 for about 17 bucks a box & .270 runs about the same.
  4. sixgunner455

    sixgunner455 Well-Known Member

    .270 is a great round. I've seen it drop a running cow elk, flat, with one shot. Much more pleasant to shoot than .30'06, and flatter shooting. I like it.

    I hear great things about the 6.5 Swede, but I've never seen one.
  5. ColtPythonElite

    ColtPythonElite Well-Known Member

    I know of several fellows that choose customs built in 6.5 Swede because of it's inherent tendency to be very accurate and pretty darn flat shooting.
  6. 2ndtimer

    2ndtimer Well-Known Member

    The Swede kicks less, ammo is tougher to find, and modern rifles are somewhat rare. The .270 Win is a top medium game cartridge, isn't bad in the recoil department, has ammo readily available anywhere that sells ammo and is reasonably priced. I have both, although my .270 is the Winchester Short Magnum version. It shoots a little flatter than the standard .270 and has more expensive ammo, but since I handload, it isn't a problem for either cartridge. I agree with the poster that recommended the .270 Win for the one gun guy, and the 6.5x55 if you plan on owning several different rifles. I kind of like having something a little different.
  7. Mr. T

    Mr. T Well-Known Member

    I would look for a Remington Model 700 (one of the older ones) in .270 Win. I picked up a used one up a couple of years ago that had a Simmons scope on it and got it at a local sporting goods store for $300. At first I thought something might be wrong with it, but looked it over carefully and it was in apparently good shape. I think that it has been the best rifle purchase I've made for the money. The gun easily shoots MOA at 100 yards. It's been a really good gun. My son shot his first Whitetail with it at over 200 yards; it dropped at 6 point buck in his tracks one shot...it never moved....needless to say I was impressed with the performance. I'd recommend the .270 to anyone hunting game in North America.
  8. R.W.Dale

    R.W.Dale Well-Known Member

    Besides 30/06 and in some cases even beating it you'll find more bolt action rifles used in 270 win than in pretty much all other calibers combined.

    You'll have such a vastly superior selection of rifles to find one that suits you best ill always recommended 270 to the bolt action hunting rifle beginner.

    And flame me all you want but there's not a dang thing that a 6.5x55 will do that a 270 wont do just as well

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  9. Gunnerboy

    Gunnerboy Well-Known Member

    The 6.5x55 ballistically with its BC and penetration is very similar to the 3006 and in power similar to a 308 so yeah its probably one of the best rounds out there.
  10. 303tom

    303tom member

    I don`t know why everybody says the 6.5x55 is so hard to find, Midway has over 20 different makers, bullets, & weights on the shelf !!!!!!!!!!!
  11. BoilerUP

    BoilerUP Well-Known Member

    You can expect roughly 3000fps from a 22" .270 Win using a 130gr bullet and 60.0gr H4831SC.

    You could expect 2900fps+ from a 22" Swede using a 130gr bullet and less than 50 grains H4831SC (or H4350 or RL17)...assuming you were using a modern action.

    The 6.5mm bullet will also have ballistic coefficient and sectional density superior to its .277 competition.

    But...ya can't pick up a box of Swede at your average Wal-Mart.
  12. WayBeau

    WayBeau Well-Known Member

    Can't speak to the 270, but I wouldn't get rid of my swede for anything. In fact, I'm looking to buy another one. Remington made the 700 in 6.5x55 a while back and Ruger has produced the #1 in 6.5x55, so modern versions are out there. I've found that you have to be super quick and almost grab them as they're coming in the door. My local shops can't keep them around. The kick is marginal and it's the flatest shooting round I've ever shot.
  13. mgmorden

    mgmorden Well-Known Member

    Both are good rounds. Both tend to be very inherently accurate. .270 will kick a LITTLE harder and is deadly out to slightly longer distances.

    It's largely a toss-up. I will say that I've owned both, and I still own the .270.

    IMHO though, if you're willing to reload, my favorite light-recoiling rifle I own is a .257 Roberts. To me its the absolute PERFECT balance of everything for a whitetail cartridge.
  14. NCsmitty

    NCsmitty Well-Known Member

    As much as I like my 6.5x55 rifles, a M38 Swede and a M98 rebarrel, it's hard to fault a 270 Win for all around deer/hog use. Fairly flat shooting, and energy levels approaching 308 Win, it does recoil a bit more than a 6.5x55, but it is using 10gr more powder.

    The superb ballistic coefficient of the 6.5 caliber bullets, allows the Swede to close some of the ballistic difference over longer ranges, but the 270 will get the job done if you can tolerate the extra recoil over the Swede.

    I have a 270 Win also, but I haven't shot it in a couple years.

  15. R.W.Dale

    R.W.Dale Well-Known Member

    Again we get that entirely false mantra of "superior ballistic coefficient" repeated by the Swede look aid drinkers.

    This is the 21'st century we have. 277" vld's. In hunting bullets it doesn't really matter what caliber you choose 6.5, .277, 7mm or 30 Cal there is a bullet that will match what's avalible for 6.5 in terms of BC within a close enough degree to not matter.

    I rank the belief in 6.5mm magic right up there with the Easter bunny or Santa clause

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  16. ArtP

    ArtP Well-Known Member

    To do a fair comparison you have to compare ballistics with the same sectional density. It this case,a Swede 129 grain is about the same as a 270 in 140 grain. Comparing the same SD is going to get you about the same BC too from similarly designed bullets. The .270 is 300fps faster according to my 7th ed. Hornady book, which will be slightly flatter shooting, bringing more energy and a bigger hole, at the cost of a little more recoil.

    Ultra-premium brass is easy to come by from the Scandinavian makers for the Swede, something that I've found tough to find for my .270. There are likely for more rifles available chambered in .270.
  17. NCsmitty

    NCsmitty Well-Known Member

    Boy, I hope you don't spread this around and burst someone's bubble.

  18. bobnob

    bobnob Well-Known Member

    I handload two different loads for my .270 Win:

    - A 150 SST at 2925 fps. Has some recoil but hits very very hard right out to 500y. I seldom shoot quite that far out. This is not an excessive load.
    - A 130 Hot Cor load at about 2975. This slightly exceeds the hotter 6.5 Swede loads and is very mild to shoot, very little kick and a milder report, more of a crack than a boom.

    Both loads shoot to the same POI with almost the same trajectory out to about 400y, but I essentially have a 270 and a 6.5 in one. The lighter loads are great for when a mate uses the rifle who doesn't shoot as much.

    But you can't load a 6.5 up to 270 specs.
  19. browncoatdawn

    browncoatdawn Well-Known Member

    some good info here, would like more

    I have noticed that there are lots of nice model 70 Winchesters for sale, used, of course, for a good price. I'm seeing most around $375-450 depending on wear, character marks, and the glass that it wears.

    I don't see many of the 6.5 rifles around, but since I love the old surplus rifles, and love to shoot them, I would love impressions and any advice on the surplus rifles that are commonly found.

    The .270 is a curiosity of mine right now, and I have far too many curiosities when it comes to things that go bang. I pretty much want to own one, or a dozen, of everything, so a solid model 70 would not hurt the collection.

    I currently have an old savage 22 hornet, I forget the model, it's 2 hours away in my dads safe, and I have the action for an SMLE but that't it.
    I have a Remington 700 in .308, topped with an older fixed 4x Burris scope.
    I have a few others, well, more than a few, but most are .22lr and other varmint rounds.

    I am currently looking at the 2 rifles I mentioned earlier, but would love to pick up a full, functional SMLE, and got eyes on MN 91/30. Can anyone possibly direct me to any place that carries the SMLE?

    Got eyes open for an M1 carbine also, I love them.

    Thanks everyone!
  20. AK_Maine_iac

    AK_Maine_iac Well-Known Member

    I rank the belief in 6.5mm magic right up there with the Easter bunny or Santa clause
    Boy, I hope you don't spread this around and burst someone's bubble.

    Yes Santa is for real. I live next to him. But that is a different topic:)

    Back on topic. I do not own a 270 at this time. Have in the past. I do have and like my 6.5x55. I have to may 30.06 relatives as it is. ( 35 Whelen 25.06 30.06 and it's baby brother 308) I am thinking about a 338.06 just to round of the family.
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2011

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