.327 Magnum

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My son, son in law and I are all going to go for our CC permit and I was wondering if any of you personally own the new Ruger SP101 in .327 Magnum.

I am considering this as a CC during the warmer months due to it's compact size. I like the idea of an extra round over the same model in .357 and that the new load has a high velocity. Plus I can get some Crimson Trace laser grips for it for $150.00

I checked with Ruger and they are out at the moment but I have my 9mm to hold me over while it's cold outside so I'm not in a real big hurry to get one.

All the reviews I have seen have been positive but I would like to get some opinions from those who actually own one.
 
Based on forum chatter, there seems to be a big release of SP101's in 327 Federal to dealers and distributors in the last couple of weeks. If you want one, I suspect with some effort by your dealer, you'll find one. Hope you enjoy it when you find one.

I honestly think it would make a great self defense caliber if you like the SP101.
 
Just keep in mind the price of ammo. From what I've seen price is higher than .357 Magnum and there is nowhere near the variety of different loads to practice with or carry.

The laser grips will work for the .357 / .38 also.

I agree the extra round of capacity is nice.
 
It's no harder to load .327 than .32 H&R (or other .32's--not including .32 ACP of course) and use the same dies, so no added expense in that regard.
 
I just bought one last week and I really like it. Not near as many choices on ammo, but it is priced about the same as .357 mag. The biggest downside to me is that a .357 shoots .38 which is cheap. The .327 will shoot .32 S&W, .32 S&W long and .32 H&R mag but none of them are really any cheaper than the .327 is. The other problem is just finding the ammo. Thankfully the gunshop I bought it from has ammo there because I have not seen it anywhere else.

All in all though I am really happy with the gun. I do like the extra round and while prices are high I reload anyway so it isn't a big deal to me. All I had to do was find enough to get me into brass and I was all set. If you do reload Hodgdon has released a load chart for it as well.
 
Anyone out there have a .327 reamer? I'd like to rent one to help ease the cost you paid for it.
 
Uhhh, bullet diameter kills. I don't think I want to go below 358. You may want to consider that.
 
Uhhh, bullet diameter kills. I don't think I want to go below 358. You may want to consider that.

If bullet diameter was all that killed there would never be any 9mm vs .45 debates.
 
It appears that you can shoot .32 H&R Mag, .32 Long, and .32 Short through the .327 Mag. Ammo availabiity is scarce, I checked four websites, Cheaperthandirt.com is the only site that had it listed. Ammo prices are on par with .357 Magnum. There are three loads offered for .327 Mag ranging from $.93 per round to $.47 per round.

Of the five reviews I read, two were apparantly paid endorsements, one compared it's ballistics to a 9mm Luger, one to a 7.62 Tokarev and the final was a Federal press release.

Choice of this loading boils down to desire and personal preference. I personally like to be able to shoot a particular platform and cartridge before spending a considerable amount of money on a new pistol and the added cost of it's diet. For all of the proposed advantages, only time and use will truly tell the story.

For what it's worth, I own a .32 Mag S&W Model 16. It's a great pistol and a very fun caliber to shoot. It is also very accurate. I don't think much of it as a defensive platform, I prefer a 9mm or a .357 Magnum for that application. As I stated above, personal preference.

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Thanks for the info.

nksmfamjp I have to respectfully disagree with your statement that bullet diameter is the only factor that results in a kill.

I found this site on testing of the new .327 SP-101 and found it interesting that the little round has alot of velocity.

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SP101-327.htm

Article states:

Federal is offering three factory loads for the .327 Federal Magnum at this time; a Federal Premium 85 grain Hydra-Shok hollowpoint at 1330 fps, a Speer Gold Dot 115 grain hollowpoint at 1300 fps, and an American Eagle 100 grain jacketed soft point at 1400 fps. These velocities are advertised as being fired from the 3 1/16 inch barrel of the SP101. I only had the American Eagle load for testing. It chronographed at an average velocity of 1374.9 fps at eight feet from the muzzle, so corrected to muzzle velocity, the Federal specifications are dead on accurate.

I also liked the real world testing of using Meat (pork shoulder) to check the penetration of the round.

Article states:

Next I moved on to testing the .327 Federal Magnum for penetration. As mentioned early on, I am a believer in penetration above all else when it comes to a cartridge that will be used against flesh. The .327 Federal Magnum is marketed as a defensive revolver, so it had to be tested in flesh. Since shooting live humans is illegal, immoral, and distasteful, and fresh cadavers are hard to come by out in the woods, I rode into town and bought a whole pork shoulder from the local butcher. I told him that I wanted the biggest one that he had. It weighed just over twenty-three pounds. Again, I used only the Federal factory American Eagle 100 grain load for this test. I had three reasons for this: I wanted to use a load that is available to anyone who buys one of these revolvers, most people will carry their defensive handgun loaded with factory ammunition, and meat is expensive. Taking aim from a distance of ten feet and aiming just inside the shoulder blade, I fired into the pork shoulder from the end. The American Eagle jacketed softpoint bullet fully penetrated the shoulder. I had hoped to be able to stop the bullet and see just far it would penetrate the meat, but sixteen inches was the entire length of the shoulder. The entrance and exit holes were very similar, with some cratering around the entrance. Opening up the shoulder, about seven inches in showed a large amount of cavitation and tissue damage. Seven inches is about optimum for this. Measure into your chest about seven inches and you will see that there is a lot of important stuff in that area. This damage started near the entrance, peaked at about seven inches, and then tapered into a channel of about one-half inch diameter through to the exit. I am very pleased at the performance of the penetration test.

So all in all I think the new ammo is perfect for a lightweight CC that can get the job done.

I don't look forward to the taking of a life and if the little round will disable the perp and allow me to escape unharmed that's all the better. Besides, if the situation requires me to finish the job then there are 5 more rounds in which to do so.
 
I tried today, cash in hand, to buy 2. I got zero. They don't seem to be available. Bummer! They are listed at $375, but there are none, so they might as well list them for $29.95. If it ain't available, listed price means diddly squat!

Regarding ammo, are there really people out there that buy factory ammo--don't reload? Sounds weird to me, but there may be a few outsiders! Makes about as much sense as a bucket full of holes!!!
 
I'm not sure if I would buy a .327 Magnum or not but I have to stick up for the new round. A 115gr bullet traveling at 1300 fps is no joke. The 9mm shooting a 115gr bullet is extremely popular and considered more than adequate for SD. The 9mm doesn't shoot that 115gr bullet at the same velocities either. Gold Dot bullets expand reliably so the .312" 327 Magnum bullet will expand just about as much as a .355" 9mm bullet so IMO, that's a non-issue.

Like I said, I'm not sure I would buy a .327 Magnum especially if the 6th round is the issue. There are J frame size .357 Magnum revolvers available that will hold 6 rounds.
 
So what's the self defense angle? Odds are that not a single person on this thread (The High Road) will ever use a self defense load. Get a .327 (if you can) and use it as it's designed--a fine fun load, a super small game load, and maybeso even an acceptable medium game load!
 
The reason conversation has focused around the "self defense" angle is that is specifically what the OP inquired about, as he stated it was going to be a "concelaed carry" gun, which most people equate with self defense.
 
I was thinking the SP-101 .327 magnum was going to be easier to CC than my 9mm but after going to Ruger's web site and checking the specs it seems that the SP-101 is 1oz. heavier than my P-95 with the polymer frame.

Now I'm wondering what's the use? Since it's heavier, I may as well just stick with the P-95 year round. The frame is narrower and the ammo is cheaper. I guess I was thinking the .327 was smaller and easier to CC but I wasn't considering that the SP-101 was all stainless.

I was also considering the LCP .380 but it's too small for my hand and they aren't availible with the recall that's on going. Any suggestions for an easy concealable lightweight CCW for under $400.00 that could be used in the summer months?
 
Regarding ammo, are there really people out there that buy factory ammo--don't reload? Sounds weird to me, but there may be a few outsiders! Makes about as much sense as a bucket full of holes!!!

I buy factory ammo untill I get enough brass saved up. I have never been one for buying empty brass, and you can't even get .327 brass yet. I just got a couple hundred factory rounds and that brass should last me for a long time.
 
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