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.327 Magnum

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Just came in today. .327 blued, 115gr magnum cartridge, manageable recoil, VERY LOUD, 1.5" group at 25 feet. This is my Wife holding it.

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Brass ejected smoothly with no hangups at all, and at 115gr proectile this is about as hot as it gets. The very smooth pull surprised me.
I'm happy.:D

Latigo
 
I bought a Charter Arms "Patriot" stainless steel, 4", adjustable sight 327 mag last week end. One box of American Eagle 100 gr. JSP ammo. Nice gun, smoother than I expected, only 23 ounces, not what I call fun to shoot, more felt recoil that any of my other magnums, yes they are bigger heavier guns. I put 100 rounds of 32 Magnum thru it, very accurate in 32 and 327, but I will load the 327 down a little and the 32 magnum up a little.
 
I think its an 85, but it came from an Ellett Brothers distributor. They have an exclusive with Taurus and maybe that's why its not there yet, but I don't know. The box is at home and I'm in town. I'll check the paperwork later today and post the model number.
Cool little carry piece though.

Latigo
 
http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search/Category/684/2/Guns/Pistols/Taurus-Pistols-Revolvers/Revolvers.htm

A taurus 85 is a .38 special. .327 Taurus is model 327. I just sold a LW ported taurus 731 which is out of production. It was a .32 HR Magnum. I also had a .327 Ruger for a brief period. This is an accepted caliber that seems to work well for some. Especially those that want a small revolver with six shots. I sold the .32's to cut my ammo types down to 3 or 4 or 5. Nothing wrong with the guns.
 
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Thanks popeye.
I really had to laugh this morning when I opened email. I posted about this little fireball on three boards and despite some "...why?? OMG!! Why?? Reinventing the wheel!! Oh, the humanity of it!!...sob (head down, pounding desktop) posts, there were no less than 7 emails asking for the dealer contact number! icon_biglaugh.gif
Probably because of the price I paid, but all of them have his number now, and man is he going to be surprised later today.
I found a holster and Hogue grips in town yesterday afternoon and both fit and feel perfect. This weekend comes the chrono and penetration testing in Lost Prairie and I'll post a report by saturday afternoon or sunday.

I'm still alternating carry with my .45 and .357, but that might change with this little firebrand included in the cycle. I'll know for sure on saturday.

Latigo
 
I laugh at the reinventing the wheel thing. This gun rocks. The 327 mag in it's lowest form (the 85 grain Federal load) is about the same impact as a standard 9mm. The higher loads exceed 500ft. lbs. of energy basically equaling the 357 mag in standard form. This is a weopon that will, indeed, blow your head clean off.

I have the Ruger version, and it's so fun to shoot. I've shot the shorts, longs, mags, wadcutters, the Federal 327. What is NOT to like about this gun? The Ruger is a smooth, refined piece of equipment and deadpan reliable. A cylinder of fired .327 come out with some applied force, but they are not stuck. I hear that Ruger will polish your cylinders for you if you don't like your brass not falling out when you're finished. Everything but the 327 falls out as you'd expect.

This is not a reinvented wheel. This is the fullfillment of this caliber. I think this is the most useful revolver you can buy. Holding a Federal 327 side by side with a 357 will show they are very close to being the same size, weight.

One thing I can say. Anyone who has shot my revolver with 327 in it loves it, and that includes 357 devotees. I put a Hogue grip on mine and the recoil is much less painfull that with the standard grip.

It's a great gun. Buy one for plinking and target practice, and when you get home, put 6 Federal Mags in it and it's the perfect home protection handgun. Besides - the gun is beautiful.
 
m2s, polishing the cylinder chambers is really easy. Use a Dremel with the right diameter soft-pad wheel and a little jeweler's rouge. Quick and slick. My .327 ejects expended 115gr bullet cases smoothly.

Latigo
 
Thanks. I just happen to have jeweler's rouge and a dremel tool with polishing bits. I'm going to shoot it today. If it's as sticky today as it was the last time I put .327 in it, I may polish it myself.
 
This is not a reinvented wheel. This is the fullfillment of this caliber. I think this is the most useful revolver you can buy. Holding a Federal 327 side by side with a 357 will show they are very close to being the same size, weight.

so if they're the same size as a .357... and only hold 6 shots... what's the point? why not just get a .357?

what would be attractive to me about a .327 would be a revolver having 8 shots or something. (can get a 686 that holds 7 shots of .357, so 7 doesn't interest me)
 
I'm not sure if you own a 357 why you'd want one. If you don't own a 357 and want a cheap plinking and target pistol which - when asked - will shoot like a 357 - then the 327 is your gun. It's one of the most versatile
handguns i've ever shot. It's a perfect size and conceals well. Again, if you have and love firing your 357 - you don't need it. If you don't own a 357 and are wanting both a plinking/target pistol with low recoil AND a 357 - this is your revolver.
 
So, does anyone have a reamer that they would rent me? I have an older SP101 in .32 H&R that I'd sure like to convert to .327. I'd help ease the cost pain on that reamer!
 
Putting 7 bullets in the barrel of the 327 would throw the size off by an uncomfortable margin. If I want more bullets, I'll carry my Glock 26 and an extra magazine. The SP101 conceals more easily than the little Glock.
It also can carry 170ft lbs more deliverable energy to an assailant, though I'm pretty comfortable with the power of the Glock (330 ft. lbs give or take).

I don't understand what people don't get about the 327. If you already have a gun that shoots 32 sort/long magnum and wadcutter and like that,
adding a 327 HAB (huge ass bullet) to the arsenal is a great thing. Ok, you may have to get another gun to shoot this bullet, but who doesn't like getting another gun. The sp101 is a beautiful piece with an incredible trigger pull and great accuracy combined with fine conceal carry abilities.

If you love to shoot 357 you'll like shooting 327. If you have to have something bigger you won't want it. But if you really love guns you'll probably get one. I also collect wristwatches and it's hard to not duplicate form and/or function after you have a few watches, but it doesn't stop me from getting someone else's version of something. Hey -
if you have 400 bucks and you want a new gun - the 327 is a great one.
 
Putting 7 bullets in the barrel of the 327 would throw the size off by an uncomfortable margin.

Putting 7 bullets in the barrel of the .327 would blow your hand off by an uncomfortable margin :what:

I would like to hear more on the recoil of the .327, as well as seeing it offered in a larger gun. My girlfriend shoots a S&W model 10 right now but .38 +P is about the upper limit of recoil for her. If I could find a more powerful gun with similar recoil that would be great.

I also think it's funny to read the comments about it only holding one extra shot. These are often from the same people that argue that 5 shots of .38 are enough because that's what they carry.
 
The .327 Federal Magnum is an attempt to improve on the .32 H&R Magnum, introduced in 1984, a round which failed to attract shooters or manufacturers. This is the third updated version of the original .32 S&W cartridge, which dates back to 1878. The original was a black powder cartridge with a case length of 0.61 in. (15 mm), which developed a velocity of around 700 ft/s (215 m/s).[3] The first improvement of the round came in 1896 with the introduction of the .32 S&W Long, which had a case length of 0.920 in (23.4 mm) and generated slightly higher velocities.[4] The introduction of the .32 H&R Magnum nearly a century later increased the case length to 1.075 in (27.3 mm) and pushed the pressure up from the very low 15,000 psi to 21,000 CUP, which is similar to .38 Special +P. This gave velocities of over 1,200 ft/s (365 m/s), a respectable increase, but was not enough to garner any great interest in the cartridge.[5]

While the .32 H&R Magnum is a near equivalent to the .38 Special +P, the .327 Federal Magnum reaches the velocity levels of the .357 Magnum, if not the same power, with velocities of up to 1400 ft/s (420 m/s) from the short-barreled Ruger SP-101. The case is 1/8" (3 mm) longer than the .32 H&R, and the pressure, at 45,000 psi, exceeds that of the .357 Magnum and approaches the level of the .454 Casull. Since the .327 still shares all case dimensions, excluding length, with the other .32 caliber cartridges going back to the .32 S&W, it can safely chamber and fire all four cartridges. Recently, Charter Arms has begun manufacturing of a six-shot revolver in .327 FM. [1][6][7] As of late 2008, Taurus and Smith & Wesson had also joined the ranks of major gun manufacturers producing small frame six-shot .327 revolvers.


[edit] Similar cartridges
The .327 Federal provides performance similar to the high velocity rifle loadings of the old .32-20 Winchester, though in much shorter barrel. Similar to the +P cartridges of today, the rifle loadings of these old cartridges were loaded to higher pressures than standard; they were discontinued because they could destroy .32-20 revolvers if fired in them. The .32-20, while long considered obsolete, has lived on in the sport of handgun metallic silhouette shooting, with handloaded rounds from single shot pistols like the Thompson Center Arms Contender far exceeding standard ballistics, and with the growing popularity of Cowboy action shooting, .32-20 lever action rifles are again being made. If chambered in a suitably modified .32-20 rifle, the .327 Federal should provide a significant boost over the .32-20.[6][8]

Another close comparison is the .30 Carbine, which has been offered in Ruger's single action Blackhawk revolver line since 1968.[9] The .30 Carbine was essentially the same ballistically as the .32 Winchester Self Loading, which was itself basically a rimless .32-20. The .327 Federal works at even higher pressure than the .30 Carbine (45,000 vs. 40,000 psi).[7][8] The long, 7 1/2 inch (19 cm) barrel of the .30 Carbine Blackhawk, with suitable loads for a handgun, offers performance levels with similar bullet weights in excess of the factory loaded .327 Federal, along with excellent accuracy. Those who favor the .30 Carbine in a revolver do so due to the excellent accuracy, flat trajectory, and low recoil, all of which the .327 Federal provide.[10] Both custom gunsmiths working with Ruger small frame single action Single Six and commercial maker Freedom Arms began offering conversions to convert .32 H&R revolvers to .327 Federal by early 2008. Test results from the long barreled guns showed even higher velocities than the .30 Carbine, along with excellent accuracy.[11] It is quite possible the .327 Federal will be offered in a lever action carbine, though no specific models have been publicly announced.
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Analyze it all you like. It shoots great, has a form fit holster, fits easily in my pocket, takes a good sized aftermarket and factory grip and I'm now a firm believer in the caliber.
The only odd thing is that they offer the larger/longer grip from the factory. Why didn't they just make that grip a standard? Strange.

SP
 
To me anyone who doesn’t understand why someone would buy this round should wonder the same thing about the 9mm. Why own a 9mm when the .45 is available right?

I really don't know what attracted me to this cartridge, but I bought a Ruger SP101 last November in .327 and it is quickly becoming my favorite shooter.

I think it had a lot to do with the fact that I like J-frame revolvers and already owned 2 smiths and a Taurus in .357mag. Since I already owned 3 .357's I really didn't want another one and had been looking for either a 9mm, a .22 or I was looking for a Colt to add to my J-frame collection. I had always liked the Ruger but just didn't want another .357. When this came out I instantly wanted it and got one as soon as I got the chance. I really bought it as a novelty figuring it would be a cool piece to add, but after reading more about the cartridge and spending some time on the range I have stuck it into my carry rotation. The ballistic reports are impressive, and the extra round is nice. I put a Wilson spring kit in mine and the DA trigger pull is much nicer than out of the factory.

It is not really an economical choice over the .357 with .327 ammo costing around 25 bucks for a box of 50, and currently there are only 3 types available. The Federal American Eagle 100gr lead soft nose for target shooting; and the 85gr. Fed Hydrashock and 115gr. Speer GD for self defense. You can shoot .32 H&R mags, .32 S&W long and .32 S&W through it, but none of these are cheap either. Not a problem for me since I reload and cast my own bullets.

Shooting .32 S&W longs out of this revolver is awesome as they produce hardly any felt recoil. If you reload your own you can spend hours at the range without much cost and no pain in the hand from shooting hundreds of rounds. Even .38's through a J-frame can become annoying after awhile, but I might as well be shooting .22's through the SP101.

I agree with one of the previous posts that if you already own a small .357 mag and you have no desire to own another J-frame there is no need for this revolver. But right now if I were recommending a J-frame to a friend this would be a serious contender. The only downside is the lack of cartridges produced for it. A problem that will go away hopefully if more and more manufactures sign on, but right now there is no guarantee. I would also like to see a K-frame or similar size chambered for this with a capacity of 8 or even 9 shots in it. Not because I would buy one, but I think it would help the popularity of the cartridge out. Although I believe that one of the ideas behind the .327 was the extra round in small frame revolvers so I don’t know how realistic that is.
 
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