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444 marlin for .410 shot shells

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by poor man, Feb 26, 2013.

  1. poor man

    poor man Well-Known Member

    this might not be right for here so if it gets deleted il know why ;)

    any way i was wondering if anybody else uses 444 marlin shells to make cowboy style .410 shot shells? ive been doing it for quite a while more for fun shooting but i guess you could use them for hunting too,
  2. cfullgraf

    cfullgraf Well-Known Member

    I have dabbled with Magtech .410 brass hulls. I use 444 Marlin dies to assist in the reloading of the hulls.

    I believe you can also make .410 brass hulls fro 303 Enfield.

    I have single loaded them in my pump .410 shotgun and used them for critter control. Since I last loaded the brass hulls, I have obtained a .410 O/U but have not tried the brass shells in it.

    Loading the brass hulls was more of a novelty of reloading for me than something really useful.
  3. kingmt

    kingmt Well-Known Member

    I make loads for my kids with them. I can't find the brass without paying a Buck a piece for them.
  4. grubbylabs

    grubbylabs Well-Known Member

    Don't waste good 444 brass.
  5. FROGO207

    FROGO207 Well-Known Member

    I do it also. The thing is some shotguns will not eject the spent casings due to the narrow rim of the 444. All mine do but I have a sister that has an off brand shotgun and she has this problem. Otherwise it works well. I usually can reload them 4-5 times before I need to resize them to fit easier.
  6. poor man

    poor man Well-Known Member

    " I usually can reload them 4-5 times before I need to resize them to fit easier."

    you must load hotter than i do. ive reloaded the 6 shells many many times and have never had to resize them :) but hen im just loading hot enough to give the squirrels on the bird feeder and dirt nap :)
  7. Clark

    Clark Well-Known Member

    If I run the numbers, it looks like a good fit.
    Maybe I have found a use for all the 444 Marlin brass I thought I could neck down:)

    2.5" 410 SAAMI chamber:
    Rim dia .536" - .541"
    Rim thick .0532" - .0672"
    base dia [@ .0627"].4780" - .4830"
    mouth dia [@2.5"] .4630" - .4680"

    444 Marlin SAAMI brass:
    Rim dia .504 -.514"
    Rim thick .053" - .063"
    base dia [@ .2"].4618 - .4698"
    mouth dia [@2.24"] .4469" - .4549

    444 brass in 410 chamber clearance
    Rim dia .022" - .037"
    Rim thick [interfere .0098"] - .0142"
    base dia .0082 - .0212"
    mouth dia .0081 - .0211"
  8. Alaska444

    Alaska444 member

    + 1. The .444 is such a wonderful caliber, it would be a shame to "waste" the brass on a simple .410. Just my opinion since I love my .444.
  9. NCsmitty

    NCsmitty Well-Known Member

    I have been there and done that with 444 cases, and even bought a 444 Marlin classic Lee loader to help out, but the cases do bulge a bit and the smaller rim is an issue in my Pardner 410 and IMO, there is no advantage to using them. It was just something to mess with.


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