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.475 draws blood

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by coyotehitman, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. coyotehitman

    coyotehitman Well-Known Member

    It was big gun day. I broke out the Desert Eagle and 475 Linebaugh Monday with some stout loads to sight in and prepare for my trip to Alaska. Things were going well until I let one of the other patrons shoot it. Despite being told to hang onto it, it jumped up and bit him in the forehead creating a good sized gash, then got dropped (luckily only suffering a small ding). Anyway, 20 rounds into it I called it quits with the Linebaugh. There is just something about having an expensive revolver dropped that makes your day take a 180 degree turn. I don't think I'll be as willing to let the next guy experience the Linebaugh.

    Anybody have any favorite loads for the 475 in grizzly country?
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2013
  2. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Well-Known Member

    You do have to hang onto those big bore revolvers until you get used to the recoil. Nobody likes a gash in the forehead. Steel and skin/bone aren't a good mix.

    Wander over to Handgun Hunter Magazine forum for your 475 loads. Since I have little practical experience I won't make any serious recommendations. But the experts are there every day.
  3. coyotehitman

    coyotehitman Well-Known Member

    I felt bad for the guy. You could see the confidence drain out of him as the guys gathered to see what had happened. His man card took a hit too when the guy he was with told him he better stick to his 9mm. I'll check out that site, thanks for the info.
  4. buck460XVR

    buck460XVR Well-Known Member

    Sorry to hear about the ding in your firearm. I've let many folks shoot my .460 X-Frame and it has yet to hit anyone in the head, nor have they dropped it. This includes women and my youngest son when he was 13 and weighed 95 pounds. All worked their way up to it with .357s and .44s and I was sure they could handle it before they were allowed to shoot legitimate .460 loads. Your friend needs his man card pulled.
  5. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    I know what you mean. Personally, unless I knew they were familiar with the big sixguns, I wouldn't let anyone shoot it.

    Well, there's a significant difference between a 4½lb S&W .460 and a 43oz .475.
  6. buck460XVR

    buck460XVR Well-Known Member

    Yes there is. But that pound and a half it is not the reason a grown man hit himself in the head and dropped the firearm. If it is, then there is a problem with the firearm itself and the cartridge it is chambered for. I don't believe the fault was with the gun. I believe it was the fault of the shooter and his inability to control the gun. Odds are it probably woulda happened had he been shooting an X-Frame. You are welcome to differ.
  7. MikeJackmin

    MikeJackmin Well-Known Member

    Sounds like you need a lanyard for that gun.
  8. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    I agree but if you've never fired a 2½lb .475, you probably don't know what to expect. Obviously a gun that recoils less and is double the weight is less likely to be a problem. Grown men who grew up shooting .44's and .45's often have trouble mastering the .475 with full loads. That is, 430's@1350fps.

    What loads were you using when your 13yr old son was shooting your .460 and what was the barrel length?
  9. silicosys4

    silicosys4 Well-Known Member

    If someone knows this about their gun, and I'm sure the OP did, why would someone let a person unfamiliar with heavy recoiling firearms fire their admittedly expensive, heavy recoiling gun?

    Why are they not instructing them properly first as to what to expect?

    Sounds like two lessons were learnt, and an unfortunate ding earnt.
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2013
  10. murf

    murf Well-Known Member

    the 475 linebaugh is built on a single-action bisley frame. that design is meant to rotate in your hand when fired. the s&w double-ation frame design is meant to push straight back into your hand.

    the recoil of a 36 ounce single-action revolver shooting heavy loads (325 grain bullet at 1275 fps) will imbed the front sight into your forehead if you hold the weapon with anything except a very firm grip.

    i have been shooting that load in my 36 ounce ruger blackhawk (45lc) for thirteen years, now. i have only stuck the front sight into my forehead one time. that is the last time i will hold that pistol like a 357 magnum!

    the frame design is what does it. oh, i still shoot that load. six shots and my wrist is toast.

    so, i fully agree with craigc. hold on to that gun, and let people know the consequences if they don't.

  11. Chevelle SS

    Chevelle SS Well-Known Member

    I clonked myself in the head with my buddy's 500 once. Ouch!
  12. buck460XVR

    buck460XVR Well-Known Member

    The loads were 300s @1850 fps. Just an average load from the 10 1/2'' barrel.

    So you both are saying it is the fault of the gun and/or the caliber it is chambered for that resulted in the head knockkin'? I guess I can understand it a bit since I too prefer the grip angle and recoil from DAs as opposed to SAs when shooting the big boomers. But I still ain't blamin' the gun, sorry, but, the shooter was a wuss, not just to hit himself in the head, but then to drop and damage a firearm that didn't belong to him. IMHO, Man cards are not a given....they are earned.
  13. There are so many things wrong about handing a gun of that power to a rookie. And I mean rookie to the challenges of heavy recoiling handguns. First, you should have had him watch you shoot it, in detail, and explained what you expected of him if he still wanted to do it. Second, shooters generally ease into power levels, and had you had medium or lower powered loads, you could see what he could handle on the way up. I have fired the .475 Linebaugh and .500 Linebaugh, at John Linebaugh's ranch. He did explain a few things to me about the handling of the guns before shooting. I currently own a S&W 500 snubnose, and most who have seen me fire it have little interest in abusing themselves with it. Those big guns are not for the faint of heart, or weak of commitment, as you discovered.
  14. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Well-Known Member

    Always blame the gun and not the shooter. Isn't that what the politicians do? :D

    Years ago, my little sister shot my python (357 mag of course) and the gun just about lifted over her head. She almost dropped it. I told her to hold on tight. Like it was said, you need to work up to the recoil levels the big boomers can deal out.
  15. Stress_Test

    Stress_Test Well-Known Member

    I've seen my brother shoot some of those crazy super-magnum single actions.

  16. coyotehitman

    coyotehitman Well-Known Member

    Well, thanks for the critiques. Still no pet loads listed, though.

    The gun now has some character. When I see the ding, I'll remember the look on his face and get a chuckle. He's not hurt and I've come to the realization the gun is a piece of metal, an expensive one, but its not the end of the world.

    Yeah, I own a 500 Smith and other big bores. The Linebaugh is a different handling animal.
  17. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    We're not "blaming" the gun but you're talking about an 82.5oz (5.2lbs!) behemoth with a muzzle brake and we're talking about a 43-45oz sixgun with more punishing cartridge. Dude, you have to know that it ain't the same, far from it.
  18. CB900F

    CB900F Well-Known Member


    Before I'll make any suggestions as to a .475 Linebaugh load, I'd like to know what platform you're using.

  19. Jaymo

    Jaymo Well-Known Member

    The .454 Casull will give your forehead a front sight imprint, also, if you don't hold onto that puppy.
    Having someone drop my gun would be like them scratching the paint of my car, or groping my wife. I would be furious.
    I used to want a Casull. Then, I shot one. I'm perfectly happy with .44 mag and .45 Colt +P.
    I'm even happier with .44 Spl
  20. CraigC

    CraigC Well-Known Member

    You got that right!:fire:

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