ljnowell
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Thats crazy, I have ran a buttload of it through my Lee auto disk and my auto disk pro. I never felt it metered great, but it made some clean burning accurate ammo.
700X for 45acp?
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Thats crazy, I have ran a buttload of it through my Lee auto disk and my auto disk pro. I never felt it metered great, but it made some clean burning accurate ammo.
A kind reloader gave me some 700X to try, it did not meter well in my powder throw so I measured it out for 44spl. 700x was every bit as accurate as my W231 loads.
Can't say for 45 acp, but I do have IMR data for 45acp using 700x if you need it.
Can't say for 45 acp, but I do have IMR data for 45acp using 700x if you need it.
Yeah, to state I wasn't amused by the experience would be a massive understatement. I'll see if I can take a pic of it later.
bluetopper
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Just bought 4 jars of 700X for under $17 each along with some other stuff to offset shipping costs.
From my experience one fast pistol powder is about as good as another.......and there are many of them.
The ones I do stay away from are the ones that I know tend to pressure spike.
From my experience one fast pistol powder is about as good as another.......and there are many of them.
The ones I do stay away from are the ones that I know tend to pressure spike.
700X works just fine for .45 ACP (and many other handgun cartridges). But many powder measures will choke on it. You will get different charges between a full hopper and an almost empty one. It will bridge and flakes will be chopped. Be sure to check carefully that your measure is throwing consistent charges. Don't get in a hurry. I would hesitate to use it in a progressive setup.
soloban
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I've tried it in .45ACP and found it to be anemic and metered like corn flakes in my Lee Powder measure. If you use it, try for a max load or near max.
Duztoff
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Without any other parameters, here's a few from Lyman:
.45 ACP (Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th Edition)
Notes: cases: Remington, Federal; trim-to length: .888"; primers: Remington 2 1/2; primer size: Large Pistol; Lyman shell holder: No. 2; firearm used: Universal Receiver; barrel length: 5"; twist: 1-16"; groove dia.: .450"
Warning! Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Pwdr Mfr Powder Charge Vel (FPS)
185 Remington Jacketed SWC/FMJ IMR 700-X 3.4 675
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.135" OAL; 7,900 cup
185 Remington Jacketed SWC/FMJ IMR 700-X 5.0 967
Remarks: max load; 1.135" OAL; 17,800 cup
185 Hornady Jacketed HP/XTP IMR 700-X 3.5 612
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.175" OAL; 7,500 cup
185 Hornady Jacketed HP/XTP IMR 700-X 5.5 933
Remarks: max load; 1.175" OAL; 17,800 cup
200 Speer Gold Dot Jacketed HP IMR 700-X 3.3 597
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.178" OAL; 7,400 cup
200 Speer Gold Dot Jacketed HP IMR 700-X 4.9 871
Remarks: max load; 1.178" OAL; 17,300 cup
225 Speer Jacketed HP IMR 700-X 3.1 549
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.243" OAL; 7,500 cup
225 Speer Jacketed HP IMR 700-X 4.8 796
Remarks: max load; 1.243" OAL; 17,200 cup
230 Speer TMJ IMR 700-X 3.6 667
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.275" OAL; 11,200 cup
230 Speer TMJ IMR 700-X 4.8 867
Remarks: max load; 1.275" OAL; 17,900 cup; potentially most accurate load
As someone above said, could provide better suggestions with some more data.
Oh, and as always, use at own risk...
.45 ACP (Lyman Reloading Handbook 49th Edition)
Notes: cases: Remington, Federal; trim-to length: .888"; primers: Remington 2 1/2; primer size: Large Pistol; Lyman shell holder: No. 2; firearm used: Universal Receiver; barrel length: 5"; twist: 1-16"; groove dia.: .450"
Warning! Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Pwdr Mfr Powder Charge Vel (FPS)
185 Remington Jacketed SWC/FMJ IMR 700-X 3.4 675
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.135" OAL; 7,900 cup
185 Remington Jacketed SWC/FMJ IMR 700-X 5.0 967
Remarks: max load; 1.135" OAL; 17,800 cup
185 Hornady Jacketed HP/XTP IMR 700-X 3.5 612
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.175" OAL; 7,500 cup
185 Hornady Jacketed HP/XTP IMR 700-X 5.5 933
Remarks: max load; 1.175" OAL; 17,800 cup
200 Speer Gold Dot Jacketed HP IMR 700-X 3.3 597
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.178" OAL; 7,400 cup
200 Speer Gold Dot Jacketed HP IMR 700-X 4.9 871
Remarks: max load; 1.178" OAL; 17,300 cup
225 Speer Jacketed HP IMR 700-X 3.1 549
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.243" OAL; 7,500 cup
225 Speer Jacketed HP IMR 700-X 4.8 796
Remarks: max load; 1.243" OAL; 17,200 cup
230 Speer TMJ IMR 700-X 3.6 667
Remarks: sugg. start load; 1.275" OAL; 11,200 cup
230 Speer TMJ IMR 700-X 4.8 867
Remarks: max load; 1.275" OAL; 17,900 cup; potentially most accurate load
As someone above said, could provide better suggestions with some more data.
Oh, and as always, use at own risk...
FROGO207
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700-X is my GO TO propellant in the 45 ACP with 230 grain bullets of all types. Now, I batch load so I use a custom made propellant scoop for it. Way easier than fighting with a measure any day. I did find the Ideal #55 would work passably with 700-X when adjusted for the flake size however. Depending on the brand of 230 grain bullet I use 4.8 or 4.9 grains for clean accurate loads that shoot to point of aim that match GI hardball in all my handguns. plus I have about 4 kegs of the stuff left to use up.
ljnowell
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FROG0207 said:
I found that the bigger the charge the much better it weighs, no doubt. My lee auto disk will do down to about 4.6gr with a little bit of a variance. I found that if I shoot for 4.8gr I never get too much, and it never goes below 4.6, which is a great load under a 200gr LSWC.
In 45 colt I am using a larger amount of it, like 6.5gr under a 255gr LSWC which is like .2gr over max with a 250gr LRN. It shoots like a dream.
The only reason I dont use it much anymore is because I found AA#2. It gives similar performance but is a ball powder so it meters beautifully.
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