870 jammed!!!!

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I've had problems with Remington ammo too so I can't say I like or recommend it. My 870 jammed more with Remington buckshot it seemed than anything else although it jammed with it all.

I really want to like Remington stuff I really do as they offer nice features at good prices however the quality doesn't seem to be there and they keep leaving me unhappy.

Where as companies like Ruger make stuff that is decently priced like Remington, has nice features to offer at that good price like Remington, however has a reliable and fun gun that's just all around great for a good price. That's where they seem to differ from Remington. I like good stuff at fair prices. I don't mind spending more if the cheaper stuff is crap but if I can get something just as good or close to as good with a feature or two less I'd rather do that in most cases. This is where Remingtons seem to want to fit in only they don't seem to be near as good. This is where Ruger fits in and seems to be great.
 
I just went thru the same issues you did. I polished the Chamber and have not had any issues since. I have now fired 500 rounds thru betsy without an issue. I have been making sure to switch ammo on each day just to see....but to no avail....they all have fired. I also have made sure the 00 that I got for hd works, and it has yet to fail as well.
This is my 2nd 870 express, my first I had no issues with and do not have since it was stolen.
I am also planning on adding a Maverick 88 for a secondary hd as I got a steal on it at 75 from someone who was going to pawn it and they said they would only give him 50 for it. he only wanted 75 or I would have given him more as it is like new. I haven't owned one but....I am willing to take a chance.
Do not give up on your 870!!!
 
"Friend I just bought an NEF and I had to take it back to get it fixed within a week. It wasn't having problems ejecting hulls. It wouldn't load shells without a hassle."

That's exactly my point...another brand and it's the gun's fault. Not the hulls fault. The gun is taken to get repaired.

But on these particular boards, there is (I think) an overly optomistic view of Remington 870's. It can't be the 870's fault...it must be operator error, or not properly cleaned, or the hull manufacturer...it cannot be the 870's fault.

So instead of people suggesting to others to get their guns fixed properly, we - on these boards - are suggesting for people to use a different brand of hulls. It's just bizarre.

"Nothing made by the hands of men is perfect." - I agree.
 
But on these particular boards, there is (I think) an overly optomistic view of Remington 870's. It can't be the 870's fault...it must be operator error, or not properly cleaned, or the hull manufacturer...it cannot be the 870's fault. So instead of people suggesting to others to get their guns fixed properly, we - on these boards - are suggesting for people to use a different brand of hulls. It's just bizarre.
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It is bizarre. It's called brand loyalty. That's why Remington doesn't address the problem. 870 sales are better than ever.


GC
 
And like it or not improper cleaning of the Express can contribute to rust problems. Heck that's true with every gun to one extent or another.
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I don't know about anyone else but mine hasn't been improperly cleaned. The Remington finish on this gun is C R A P. It is not the fault of improper cleaning. Period, end of story, and anyone thinking of purchasing one should have all the facts before buying. ;)
 
I called Remington and told them about my 870 HD spent shell problems. I asked if it is pretty common, and he said 'not with the new guns'... mine is a 2009 model built in February, and it has the problem. So I don't know.

Anyways, I asked about getting it fixed, and I would have to ship it out to get it fixed, and they would only pay for shipping back. I don't know how much it costs to ship a gun, but I'm sure it's not too cheap. I don't understand why they can't pay for shipping - it falls under warranty. I'm calling some local gunsmiths to see how much they would charge to polish the chamber. I'm afraid to do it myself; I have a tendency to mess things up.
 
I take my weapons to the Smith to be torn down and serviced all the way down and all the way up a few times annualy. I wont delve into my reasons. However I will say that whatever issues that the weapons have provided to me have been resolved. What can I say? Preventative maintaince, cleanings, regular tests with snap caps etc and inspections every day/weekly ensures that the weapons are going to go bang at o dark early when there is a problem.

Who am I gonna call? Not remington.
 
and they would only pay for shipping back. I don't know how much it costs to ship a gun, but I'm sure it's not too cheap.
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The shop I deal with charges $30 to ship a gun anywhere in the lower 48. The actual shipping price is probably half of that but since you need their FFL, they got you. If it's a barrel only, you can ship that Usp Priority mail yourself in most states, check your local laws. You cant get a Gunsmith to do much for $30. Put the responsibility back on the manufacturer. If you can be without the gun for a while.
 
Are you sure you need a FFL to ship it? I didn't think you did. I thought you only needed a FFL to receive it and I didn't think you needed it if you were receiving it back from repair like that but I could be wrong.


That's exactly the stuff I'm talking about. Everyone is why don't you send it back to Remington like they will take care of it for free. Yet they want to make the man pay shipping to ship back their faulty product to them.

Then others are saying just take it to a gun smith which is what I did but that's besides the point. You then still have to pay a gun smith to fix Remington's screw up. This is not good service I don't care who you are.

They should be paying shipping both ways for that gun and fixing it since it's their fault it's messed up in the first place.

When Ruger had a recall on the SR9. They actually recalled something instead of like Remington and acting like it doesn't exist. Anyway, when they had a recall they paid for shipping, had fast turn around times, and gave you an extra free magazine for the hassle. That's what I call good customer service. Not this you pay shipping and we will fix something we didn't do right the first time.
 
but since you need their FFL
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I was refering to getting the gun back.

They should be paying shipping both ways for that gun and fixing it since it's their fault it's messed up in the first place.
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I couldn't agree more, unfortunately that's not how it works. I'm just in favor of holding them acountable and getting the fix at the least costly price. You don't always get what you pay for. I learned an expensive lesson in that with a new benelli sbe1 a few years ago.
 
Looks like when I had one I did a good thing by paying a gunsmith $5 to polish the chamber instead of shipping it back to Remington like others seem to think I'm at fault for not doing.

A shame it took me so long to figure out what was wrong with it>
 
870 jammed!!!!
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I too had some issues with my 870 Express last weekend. I had a double feed on one instance, and a failure to feed in another. The first was with cheap trap loads, the latter was with 2.75" 1oz slugs. I can't really put my finger on what happened as it was the first time I have ever had any issues with this gun. I always rack the pump fast and hard to avoid ejection failures. It has always worked... until...???

It could be an ammo related issue. But I always thought the pump action 870's would eat anything. I may have a problem with the mag tube catch that holds/releases the shells from the tube.
 
I did a good thing by paying a gunsmith $5 to polish the chamber instead of shipping it back to Remington
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That was a bargain indeed. The shop I frequent gets $60 an hour. Needless to say I don't use their smith services very often.
 
Gunsmiths in my area charge $35 an hour. They give good service and have great turnaround times. They are swamped during the late summer and you have to wait a bit longer. I recently had a recoil pad installed. I furnished the pad. They cut the stock and fitted the pad while I watched for $35, though it didn't take but 30 minutes. If it is a short job, they do it while you wait. Never met a nicer group of smiths.
 
Here I think it just depends on the job. I had the shop I usually frequent that's more of a gun shop but has a gunsmith there. He told me $10 to polish the chamber but I needed to leave it a couple of days so he could get to it.

I didn't want to do that.

The other gunsmith I've dealt with has a shop in his basement. He runs it on nights and weekends. He has some guns and some ammo but a ton of reloading supplies and I think he does more work than anything. I took it to him. I don't know if he takes appointments as he has always told me to come in when they first open and he would try to do it. I went in that night and he did it for me right there and only charged me $5. I buy right much cleaning supplies from him. His shop is hard to find as it's not a sign for it and you go through his garage to a door to the shop. However, he seems to stay busy so it must be from word of mouth. I found him by calling around in the phone book at one point.


Both of those places are about an hour away.

The gunsmith in the local shop that's nearby takes forever. Had a buddies gun for months. He was in the marines so it took him a while to get back to get it. However, the guy wanted to keep it and told him it would take a month or so before he could look at it to give him a quote to drill and tap it for a scope. *** who needs it for almost a month to give a quote. Another friend tried to get sling mounts put on his gun and they told him they would do it but he would have to leave the gun for 2 weeks. Who leaves a gun for 2 weeks for sling mounts? Not me.
He is also pretty high on prices.
 
870 Remington Pumps

I've been following this thread because I had always thought, and continue to feel, that a HD pump shotgun should feed ANYTHING that's put through it short of water logged rusty ammo.
As I said in a prior reply I've put anything/everything through my Winchester 1300s and they never jammed and go bang everytine I pull the trigger.
I'm perplexed when I hear some say "well the 1300 just doesn't feel as robust as the 870..."
Robust is as robust does and doing means no jams and go bang when trigger is pulled.
These aren't our children we're talking about. They are firearms made of steel, wood and plastic. So if one is problematic call an ace an ace and get a HD SG that's dependable. I'd get rid of any firearm I have in a NY minute if it refused to feed and/or go boom!
 
This has happened to my 1300 with a cheap shell with a rusty base. Mossbergs avoid the problem by having double extractors..
 
There is one company that if you have a complaint that they will send you a call tag for your gun and pay shipping both ways. That is Charles Daly. Michael Kassnar, president of CD, goes onto their website and personally answers complaints about his products. CD has a very short turnaround time. Plus a lifetime warranty.

My next gun will be a CD. They have guns from $250 through as much as you want to pay in the competition field. I mean some high dollar guns.

Michael Kassnar gives as much attention to a $250 pump as he does the competition doubles. Lifetime warranty on all of them. I don't have a CD but after seeing how he takes his customer's service problems seriously, I will be buying one next time.

http://www.charlesdalyforum.com/

BTW, You can mail a gun. I've done it many times. The post office is the easiest way to ship a gun.
 
At any rate everything you buy you are responsible for paying to ship it in for warranty work. I don't know why guns would be ane exception. It's very rare that any company will pay for shipping both ways. Why do you expect gun companies to be different?
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I don't know about with guns but with other stuff that I've had warranty work done to I've hardly ever had to pay shipping. They usually send me a ups tag and I send it back with that. I've had a few things where I've had to pay shipping which I think is also crappy but most things I've had warranty work done on they have paid for the shipping both ways as fixing the product.


I agree I got it from a crappy gun shop. This and the next purchase were the contributing factors of why I never want to buy a gun or anything else from them. It's the only really local gun shop. Dicks and Wal-Mart didn't have what I wanted which was the 3 1/2" version with the wood stock. They only had it in camo or the 3" version with the wood. There is one other gun shop about 10-15 minutes up the road but they hardly have any guns and deal mostly with bow's.

If I had known what I know now I would have not dealt with this shop at all.


To be honest though I think I got a little out of hand in here as yes I did have bad luck with it as have several others. However, just because we have had bad luck doesn't mean that they are all bad.

I still don't think it's that great of a gun or that Remington takes care of it like they should but everyone is free to their own opinion and I think I got a little out of hand trying to prove my point.

I hope you guys can accept my apology.
 
However, just because we have had bad luck doesn't mean that they are all bad.
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I feel your pain. It's the very reason I will never own anything with the benelli name on it again. Not even if its's a bleeping chainsaw.
 
Called some local gunsmiths, and all of them charge > $30. That's a decent bit of money for me at this juncture. I might try and do the polishing myself by following some of the threads I've seen around... but honestly I'm a little nervous about doing that. Assuming you follow the directions in some of these threads, is it possible to damage the gun beyond repair by using an electric drill & steel wool or a brake hone (sp?)?
 
With the steel wool wrapped around a bore brush it would almost be impossible to remove enough metal to do any harm. The brake cylinder hone will remove metal faster but it too is slow by a machinist's standards. You have to hone a long time to remove a thousandths (.001) of an inch of metal. The important thing is to keep it all moving in and out while the drill is spinning and be generous with the lubricant (WD-40 works great) Polish a few minutes at a time and feel it with your fingertip till you have the desired smoothness. A pump shotgun bore isn't a swiss watch. A thousandths or two of oversize won't matter and it would take a lot of honing to remove that much metal with the described methods. Try the steel wool method first I think you will be pleased with the results.
 
I'm perplexed when I hear some say "well the 1300 just doesn't feel as robust as the 870..."
Robust is as robust does and doing means no jams and go bang when trigger is pulled.
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I will not own an 870 (exept for the Wilson Tactical) due to this issue. I have a rule against buying something I have to fix before I can use. I DO own a 1300 defender. I own dozens of other guns, and this is my primary HD weapon. Thousands of rounds w/ ZERO mishaps. I still think the 870 FEELS more robust due to the light aluminum receiver on the 1300. Still, it works EVERY TIME. If the 870 worked the way it feels, maybe it would be next to my bed.
 
I think one must put about 400-500 rounds into a gun to correctly evaluate it's performance. I had an exopress a couple months back and sold it due to the jamming issue, which only happened on rapid fire. However, I kinda wish I would've given it the 500 rounds to see if it would loosen up and smoothen out. No matter, I'm married to teh Mossberg now. One also must keep in mind an 870 express is NOT a Marine Magnum or Wingmaster, lol.
 
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