A CZ in 10mm?

[Ivy Mike]

Nope, I've never handled a 97.

Like i said, fi CZ came out with a 10mm weapon, I'd buy one.

 

[Gary G23]

I want a CZ-75 in 357sig.

 

[TODD3465]

I'd be very interested in buying at least one of them, maybe two.

 

[nvrquit]

CZ75B in .357Sig

Gary G23,

Try this link to Bar-Sto, where you can order a .357Sig barrel for a CZ75:

http://www.barsto.com/category_main.cfm?ID=CZP

 

[Berg01]

I'll tell you what, I think a 10mm 97B and a compact version of the 97B in 10mm or .45ACP (similar to the Witness Compact), would both go over like gangbusters. I'm definitely ready for the Compact 97B, but I'd probably rather have it in .45ACP

 

[nvrquit]

Quid Pro Quo

BergO1,

I'll lobby as well for your choice, sholud you do same for mine. Quid pro quo?


Besides, I'd probably like a CZ97B compact 10mm so much, that I'd have to have one in .45 ACP just for the comaprative value!

 

[C-Note]

Any updates from CZ/Dan Wesson?

I may just have to pick up a full-size 10mm Witness now and a 10mm CZ down the road if it ever becomes a reality. Anyone have a good source for 15-round Witness mags?

 

[Grayrider]

EAA will sell you mags for $25 each if you buy 2 or more. They should have inventory as they are stocking up in anticipation of new models arriving.

GR

 

[C-Note]

Just floating this thread back to the top. Anyone hear any news/rumors? Get on the ball CZ!

 

[agtman]

Riddle me this, Sonny Crockett ...

What do vampires, Joan Rivers, and the 10mm itself have in common?

Well, much like this thread, they just won't die.

What a gift to 10mm fans this would be: just in time for the Miami Vice re-do movie this summer, CZ surprises us with the release of a high quality 10mm 97B, with fixed night sights as an option, and fed by dedicated 15-rd mags.

Perhaps it's time for a mass of e-mails to that 10mm-friendly guy at CZ, Bob Serva, reminding him politely to put that 10mm-97B project he's publically discussed before at the top of his "To Do in '06" list? Couldn't hurt.

 

[Peter M. Eick]

After breaking the barrel lugs of my 45acp 97B, I think there may be engineering issues with upscaling the 97b to 10mm. My bet is that is what has stopped this in its tracks. It would be too easy otherwise.

 

[agtman]

Yeah, but if it was merely a bad run of .45 barrels, Peter, how hard would that be to correct? That might signal defective metallurgy, rather than an issue of engineering geometry.

Was the exact cause of the lug-shearing on your gun (or others) ever reliably determined?

 

[McCall911]

Bob Serva really want's to do this If he can get the "lady" president (and a nice one she is) to sign off on the expenditures, I can make at least two recommendations that will make this a resounding success;

a) Make it of the finest stainless steel available,

b) make absolutely certain that the barrel bushing does NOT wear out prematurely, or crack (as some of their 97B Models are wont to do!)

c) Purchase the Bren Ten name from Richard Voit of Peregrine Falcon industries so that shooters wil realize that they are obtaining the real, high quality "Bren Ten" they've always wanted!

Works for me!

Scott

Works for me too!

To borrow a quote from Nicole Richie from an episode of the The Simple Life: "Who have I got to <bleep!> to make this happen?"

 

[Peter M. Eick]

The barrel lug breakage was never determined reliably. In my opinion they should go to an enclosed lug like on the 75's instead of the exposed lugs like the 97b. I am not sure I am using that description well though.

Look at it pragmatically. If the lug shearing was a common problem, then they would have changed the engineering, if it was an occasional problem then they would leave it alone and accept the failure rate. Since this is what they appear to have done, I must conclude the engineering was on the ragged edge for 45 and thus would not have worked with the 10mm.

I liked my glossy 97b. Of all of the guns I have sold that is the one I wonder if I screwed up. If they brought out a 10mm 97b, that I would buy, just my 45 97b was cludged and I just could not trust it.

 

[C-Note]

Back to the top we go!

The Armalite CZ-clone thread reactivated my craving. Get on the stick, CZ!

 

[panzermk2]

BTT I need a CZ 10mm. All of my clone EAA Witness's in 10mm work great but they are ruff around the edges. The parent CZ in 10mm is a must have for me

 

[agtman]

Bumped again, ...

For 2006 CZ is offering the (formerly Dan Wesson) C-BOB 1911 in 10mm AUTO. The C-BOB, if you haven't seen one, is a commander slide atop a bobtail frame. CZ already offers a C-BOB in .45acp.

Supposedly, the 10mm C-BOB will also sport front-strap checkering, low profile Novak-type tritium sites, Greider slide stop, STI thumb safety, Ed Brown grip safety, and 4.25" match grade barrel, among other features.

Sounds great.

Gotta assume they're still at the drawing boards re-engineering the 97B to run with the 10mm.

Maybe for '07?

 

[Curare]

Would it be available with failure-prone, cast extractors?

 

[agtman]

"Would it be available with failure-prone, cast extractors?"

Are you talking about the 97B or the CZ/DW 1911s?

 

[perception]

It would definetly be my first CZ. I have a LONG list of guns to buy before I think about CZ, but if they marketed a 10mm, that would jump to the top of my list immediately.

 

[Rob1035]

what's the 97B's grip like? Is it noticably larger like the full size Glock .45ACP and 10mm, or is it somewhat close to the regular CZ lineup?

 

[trickyasafox]

i can't believe this thread exists, i emailed CZ concerning a 10 mm on there 97 frame last week.

the response that they had was:

"dear mike

thanks for your interest! your not the first to request that, but at this time we have no plans for such a gun."

 

[hartzpad]

As much as I'd love a CZ-97 in 10mm, My Tanfoglio 10mm MATCH is probably better than a CZ-97 in 10mm, it shoots like a dream and was cheaper than any CZ-97.

 

[Grayrider]

That is a very good point. Tanfoglio has a lot of guns in 10mm. CZ may just not see much point in trying to compete by offering a single model in the caliber. The Tanfoglios are also a lot more ergonomic than the 97. It is a bit too large for my tastes. I also wonder about durability after seeing some of the pictures of 97 failures.

GR

 

[MachIVshooter]

While I would certainly buy a 97 in 10mm if it became available, I think Grayrider has outlined a real issue with it's development. Tanfoglio has taken the 10mm and run with it. I mean really run. Currently, they offer models for every purpose, ranging in price from $300 to $1800

-Standard
-Polymer
-Compact
-P-carry
-Hunter
-Match
-Stock
-Stock Custom
-Limited
-Limited custom
-Gold Custom
-Gold Custom E

Of course, EAA doesn't import every model. But the gripes about Witness "roughness" pretty much end once you step out of the first four base models and into the $500 and up arena. The Gold Custom is a very nice pistol.

Ultimately, Tanfoglio really has the 10mm market cornered aside from Glock and 1911's.