A substitue for gun control that might make us all happy.

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I don't know, but I think these people have the right Idea.

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-compton26nov26,1,763392.story?ctrack=1&cset=true


Happy to dump the guns
At a Compton mall, dozens start the holidays on an upbeat note by turning in weapons in exchange for gift cards.
By Robert J. Lopez, Times Staff Writer
November 26, 2006





With a .38-caliber handgun at his side, Arnold Craven showed up at a Compton strip mall Saturday morning to start his holiday season on a happy note. He was trading the weapon for a $50 gift card, which he planned to use for a Christmas present.

Craven was one of dozens of people who turned in weapons Saturday as part of a "Gifts for Guns" event sponsored by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and Compton. In exchange for gift cards, deputies were hoping to rid the streets of some deadly firearms and maybe even solve a crime in the process.

"These could be a piece of the puzzle that we can tie to an unsolved crime," said Lt. Joseph Gooden of the Compton sheriff's station, pointing to rifles and handguns stacked on a table.

He said each gun would undergo a ballistics test. The exchange, which also will take place Dec. 2 and Dec. 16, netted 641 guns last year. Two of the weapons helped investigators solve two robberies in the Long Beach area, Gooden said. Half a dozen other guns had been reported stolen.

To encourage people to come forward, deputies were not asking questions or taking names. The only requirement was that the guns be in working order. People got their choice of gift cards from Ralphs, Circuit City or Toys R Us.

Compton, which has about 96,000 residents, for years has been ranked among the nation's deadliest cities. Last year, 72 people were killed within the city's 10 square miles. So far this year, 35 homicides have been recorded.

Compton City Councilwoman Barbara Calhoun said Saturday's event showed that officials were doing everything they could to stem the violence. "We have a lot of good things going on in the city," Calhoun said.

By the end of the day, deputies had collected an odd array of 56 weapons, including a rusty shotgun from the early 1900s, two World War II-era Russian infantry rifles and newer-model semiautomatic pistols.

Craven, a 56-year-old Compton resident, was among those who turned in a newer handgun. He said he bought the gun several years ago for protection but decided to get rid of it after turning to Christianity.

"With my faith, I have no need for weapons," Craven said, holding a Ralphs gift certificate.

Retta Jackson, 74, a grandmother from Inglewood, said she wanted to get rid of the pump-action shotgun that had been gathering dust under her bed. The firearm had belonged to her husband, who died several years ago.

Jackson and her 18-month-old grandson left with a Ralphs card. "I can use the groceries," she said.

Joseph Capello of El Segundo said he used to be an avid hunter and at one time owned 25 rifles and pistols. But with a 5-year-old son in the house, Capello said, he no longer has the desire to own weapons.

So he turned in four hunting rifles — the last of his collection — in exchange for two gift cards that he plans to give away as presents.

"I want to enjoy my Christmas," he said. "I don't believe in violence anymore."


Even though the article has an obvious anti-gun bias, I think this may be the way to settle the Pro-2A Vs. Anti-2A dispute. Offer gun owners an incentive to turn in their guns, but do not force anyone to do anything. Therefore, we're happy because we can keep our guns. And, the Anti-Fruit Cakes, Gahh, I mean gunners are happy. What are your opinions on this (not the article, I know I'm going to get flammed for that, but the idea)?
 
Here's an idea: forget the gift cards, simply don't force people to do things they don't want to do. :rolleyes:

Ta-da, an end to the (one-sided) debate.
 
The Forces of Organized Gun Bigotry have these buy backs all the time, and it's not nearly enough for them, not nearly enough to slake their ravenous appetite.

While a buyback -per-se- is harmless, it's yet another publicity stunt used to supply the suggestion that there is something criminal, dirty, wrong and shameful about gun ownership, and it is used to the effect of chipping away at our society's abiding belief in the value of an armed citizenry.

Essau sold Jacob his birthright for a bowl of stew, and we rightly judge Essau a fool.
 
...I think this may be the way to settle the Pro-2A Vs. Anti-2A dispute.

Nope. Sorry. The anti-Second Amendment bigots aren't going to be satisfied until they've disarmed every last American commoner. Compromising with them is like compromising with the AIDS virus.
 
Craven, a 56-year-old Compton resident, was among those who turned in a newer handgun. He said he bought the gun several years ago for protection but decided to get rid of it after turning to Christianity.

"With my faith, I have no need for weapons," Craven said, holding a Ralphs gift certificate.
:barf: :barf: :barf:

It's pinheads like that that give religion a bad name.

:fire:
 
Wow!

"I don't believe in violence anymore."

Isn't that cute, I bet he does believe in Santa, the Easter Bunny, etc., but unlike those guys, I think that it is pretty easy to prove that violence does exist, andregardless of whether this dufus is still armed or not, will have little impact on the truth of that existance. All it will do is hamper his ability to respond when it's reality becomes all to clear to him. Sad for him, sadder for anyone who might depend on him!
 
Not believing in violence is like not believing in gravity, youre entitled to your opinion, but you're not allowed to take away MY parachute. And, when you jump, I'm going to laugh.
 
He said each gun would undergo a ballistics test. The exchange, which also will take place Dec. 2 and Dec. 16, netted 641 guns last year. Two of the weapons helped investigators solve two robberies in the Long Beach area, Gooden said. Half a dozen other guns had been reported stolen.

To encourage people to come forward, deputies were not asking questions or taking names. The only requirement was that the guns be in working order. People got their choice of gift cards from Ralphs, Circuit City or Toys R Us.

So criminals can turn in their CRIME GUNS instead of throwing them in a resevoir, get $50 for doing so, and no names are taken. They get the robbery/murder weapons and never know what criminal they were used by. Why, they can even steal guns and take them here instead of the pawn shop, and be completely free and clear with profit!

BRILLIANT! :banghead: :banghead:
 
Well, not as much flamming as I had expected.



Here's an idea: forget the gift cards, simply don't force people to do things they don't want to do.

Ta-da, an end to the (one-sided) debate.

We live in a world with Pro-Lifers, Anti-Gunners, and all around control freaks and fruit cakes. That wont happen.
 
So criminals can turn in their CRIME GUNS instead of throwing them in a resevoir, get $50 for doing so, and no names are taken. They get the robbery/murder weapons and never know what criminal they were used by.

BRILLIANT!

Fingerprints?
 
...at one time owned 25 rifles and pistols. But with a 5-year-old son in the house, Capello said, he no longer has the desire to own weapons.


Yes, he lives in a city that covers 10 sq. mi. which had 70+ murders last year... thats more than one per week. Already not a safe environment for anyone, let alone a small child...

So this dickhead used to have quite a few guns, and has now given up the only means he had to protect his son from the people who surround him, the same neighbors who commit murder once a week.

I do not even know where to start on this one? If he is that stupid, I am glad that he is so happy to have given away at least $1000 worth of rifles in exchange for a couple of DVDs...:banghead: He could have got more money at a pawn shop.
 
With a .38-caliber handgun at his side, Arnold Craven showed up at a Compton strip mall Saturday morning to start his holiday season on a happy note. He was trading the weapon for a $50 gift card, which he planned to use for a Christmas present.

Good name for him.

How about $200 off the casket of your choice?

The criminals have to be laughing.
 
Circuit City and Toys R Us: I wonder how many of those gift cards will be used to purchase violent 3rd person shooter video games, and TVs and DVDs to watch violent TV shows and violent TV movies.


While a buyback -per-se- is harmless, it's yet another publicity stunt used to supply the suggestion that there is something criminal, dirty, wrong and shameful about gun ownership, and it is used to the effect of chipping away at our society's abiding belief in the value of an armed citizenry.

Great observation, geek.
 
Gun "buy backs" (what an oxymoron) are evil.

They perpetuate the idea that guns are somehow bad, and that only the authorities know what to do with them.

Sory, but I don't think that this is the answer. :barf:
 
I love this..

Quote...I don't believe in violence anymore."

I wonder if the BG that whacks this sheep on the head thinks the same thing.


He should rush out, get some wooly undies and learn to say BAAAAAAAA.
 
"With my faith, I have no need for weapons," Craven said, holding a Ralphs gift certificate."I want to enjoy my Christmas," he said. "I don't believe in violence anymore
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Doesnt anyone get it!! Religion without violence is not religion. your faith aint gonna save you from that BG that breaks into your house at 3am with a weapon, your .45acp however might.

I guess if I say I dont believe in say car accidents they dont happen either and I dont need insurance for my car cause I dont believe in car accidents.

Nope. Sorry. The anti-Second Amendment bigots aren't going to be satisfied until they've disarmed every last American commoner. Compromising with them is like compromising with the AIDS virus.

Aint that the damn truth.

(not the article, I know I'm going to get flammed for that,
Not gonna flame you for the article bud, and its a utopian idea for gun control, but it only works for 2 things

1. people who dont want their money anymore
2. criminals who commit a crime with a weapon can get rid of the weapon and get paid by tax dollars at the same time

Its not a deterrent to crime, its a deterrent to logically getting rid of an old gun you dont want ie. pawn shop or dealer.
 
I don't own any guns that are only worth $50. They can buy them back when they're willing to pay fair market price or better, just like everyone else.

By the way, AJAX22: Thanks for the new sig line. That's hilarious.
 
DerringerUser:

Fingerprints? Not likely, with all of the different prople handling the guns they would be smuged, and some of them would had rough finishes that wouldn't take fingerprints.

I note that in the article there is no mention of gang-bangers or drug dealers turning in anything. It would appear that they disarmed a group of residents that were unlikely to commit any crime. Meanwhile those that are responsible for most of the killing and shooting that goes on ignored the event. It would seem unlikely that it would have much effect in reducing the violence they seem so concerned about. The only way to reduce crime is to go after crinimals, not the tools they use.
 
I believe the PD should then give them to college students who, due to low/no income have to live in bad areas of town. Myabe offer it as a scholarship for students with good grades(which would also help ensure they goes to "good" people).

But really, I'm with geek on this one.
 
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