michiganfan
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Anybody have experience with these three guns or two of the three? Everything else equal which is more acccurate?
Glocks are not tight guns so repeatability cannot be counted on to produce accuracy. We have to make it up with load voodoo.
I agree that the longer sight radius should increase accuracy. However, I don't think the 34 has a lighter trigger than the 17L. IIRC, the 17L comes from the factory with the same lighter connector that the 34 comes with.Inherent accuracy, they would be equal. In terms of which is easier to shoot accurately, assuming factory stock specimens, longer slide equals longer sight radius. That would give the edge to the 34 or 17l. The 17l has the longest sight radius, but the 34 has a lighter trigger which also makes it easier to shoot accurately. Probably a toss up between the 34in and 17l.
I don't understand how a gun that is inaccurate due to a lack of precise or consistent lockup (which seems to be your complaint about "loose" Glocks) is suddenly going to become more accurate with different/"better" loads. A better load isn't going to overcome that "looseness."
I'm holding a brand spanking new 17L as I'm typing this. It is nice and snug. But the barrel jiggles withe the slide bulled back as little as .020" to the rear. There is movement at the muzzle. There is movement at the breech. I don't expect it to drive tacs with WWB or any other ammo for that matter. But I'll put it up against my P210 just to see.
you seem to be saying that ammo selection is more important with Glocks than with other guns. I'm not so sure.Accuracy depends on repeatability and load voodoo. Glocks are not tight guns so repeatability cannot be counted on to produce accuracy. We have to make it up with load voodoo.
If you're saying, optimized ammo will allow a gun to shoot better, then we agree. But, optimizing performance through judiciously seeking out better loads isn't making the gun more accurate. The better ammo is just allowing the gun to perform closer to it's innate potential.
I also agree with you that Glocks are less accurate than Berettas and Sigs. But consider the Sig offers a very tight lockup, kinda like a Glock with a fitted aftermarket barrel. I honestly can't explain why Berettas are more accurate. My M9s were as loose as a typical Glock but shot my lead handloads into pretty good groups.
I've not found the Glocks to be poor performers or innately less accurate than the Berettas, SIGs, CZs, or S&Ws I've owned -- and none of those other guns were what I'd call "loose" guns.
Regarding the X5, have you tried shooting it with a regular P226 mag in place with the mag well and frame rested on a solid surface?