ACLU Second Amendment

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Updated: 7/8/2008

The Second Amendment provides: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

ACLU POSITION

Given the reference to "a well regulated Militia" and "the security of a free State," the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court's 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view.

The Supreme Court has now ruled otherwise. In striking down Washington D.C.'s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court's 2008 decision in D.C. v. Heller held for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia.

The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment. We do not, however, take a position on gun control itself. In our view, neither the possession of guns nor the regulation of guns raises a civil liberties issue.

ANALYSIS

Although ACLU policy cites the Supreme Court's decision in U.S. v. Miller as support for our position on the Second Amendment, our policy was never dependent on Miller. Rather, like all ACLU policies, it reflects the ACLU's own understanding of the Constitution and civil liberties.

Heller takes a different approach than the ACLU has advocated. At the same time, it leaves many unresolved questions, including what firearms are protected by the Second Amendment, what regulations (short of an outright ban) may be upheld, and how that determination will be made.

Those questions will, presumably, be answered over time.

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We went the rounds on this after the Heller decision. They lost a lot of members over their asinine position; including myself.
 
Yep, it's been hashed since DC and the Chicago SCOTUS decisions and ACLU looses members over it because they continue to cling to a position counter to TWO decisions for individual rights handed down by "the court".
 
It's funny and disturbing to me when I hear people or organizatios refer to a "collective" rather than individual right of the people. Suppose the ACLU applied that reasoning to the first or fourth amendment. The inconsistency should be glaringly obvious to any sane person.
 
We went the rounds on this after the Heller decision.

You are very correct. One thing to remember also is the state ACLU's tend to disagree often with the national organization so you will sometimes see very pro 2A state ACLU's.

Since it's been talked about a lot, and I don't see a legal question or topic really, I'm going to close this for now.

Unfortunately that dead horse has been beaten and still ignores now TWO Supreme Court rulings..... not much left to talk about sadly.

If anyone thinks they have an idea on how to get them to listen, Activism is always ready.
 
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