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I still say you Limeys should start "John Wayning" a good black powder revolver on your hip. Even the local bobbies would probably steer clear.:p
 
You have no idea how tempting it is to walk down the street with my Ruger Old Army on my hip, but alas, if the police will shoot you for carrying a table leg, they'll probably call in an air strike on me for carrying a wheel gun :p
 
plus with a blackpowder pistol they will charge you under the Environment Act 1990 because of all the smoke you would be creating. A much more serious crime than mugging someone dont you know!
 
Think before you post! Things like this are what got airsoft banned in the UK and will get it banned in the US if people keep treating them like "toys".

These guns ARE NOT TOYS BY ANY MEANS. :cuss: Any thing that can expel a projectile is NOT A TOY and should be treated like a LIVE FIREARM at all times.
 
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Yes Airsoft is legal in the UK.

Bank robbers using toy guns to rob banks with and drunk people pointing toy guns at armed police is what prompted the forthcoming ban on the importation of Airsoft guns.
 
There is a proposed bill which includes legislation to restrict the sale, importation and manufacture of realistic imitation firearms. There will be many exemptions to this law, if it is passed, and airsoft will likely be one of these. Historical reinactment has already been confirmed as an exemption, so if airsoft is not also exempted, then the law will be in breach of the European Human Rights Convention and thus be void.
 
Thats very optimistic of you Fosberry. :)

Then again those of us that rely on the Bill of Rights in England have to be opitimistic, dont we?
 
"Airsoft is completely legal in the UK."

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Check again, The VCRB will ban Airsoft sale, importation, manufacture and possibly possession in the near future. Theres a lot of talk here -

www.arniesairsoft.co.uk

Read through the VRCB forum carefully before assuming airsoft is NOT basically banned.
 
I feel sorry for you guys over in the UK. As bad as things are here in California, we haven't resorted to trusting our lives to toys. (even cool toys like airsoft)

buy a ceramic or zytel polymer knife, it won't show up on metal detectors.

get a little NAA blackpowder derringer, get a roll of small coins (dimes work great on this side of the pond) Don't be a victim.

If I was a mugger I'd be moving to england right about now.

I've been shot with a long burst in the face with airsoft, full auto, close range, it sucked, (I was wearing glasses, my roommates and I were playing around)

The little welts from the airsoft didn't compare to the split lip and lumps on the guy who shot me when I finished beating on him.
 
Lol, nobody is using airsoft pistols for self-defence. This thread was purely hypothetical, and besides, carrying even an airsoft pistol is illegal (any replica gun, not just airsoft).

Carrying a derringer or a knife without an excuse is illegal. When I have good reason, I carry a knife, but I never carry a gun unless I'm on my to or from the range (and even then it's locked up in the back of my car). When I have no reason to carry a knife (which is most of the time), I carry a maglite as a kubaton, which is a bit studier than a roll of coins (and also more common, no one really has rolls of coins in the UK). And the only time I've been through a metal detector was at the airport...
 
They outlawed the sale of non metalic knives in 2004-unless it is for use in the catering industry or sold as a toy.

If you carry a mini maglite and they ask you why you have it and you tell them self defence they will consider charging you under the prevention of crime act.

As for muggers moving to the UK - they are doing so all of the time!

Violent crime has increased year on year since the horrible Prevention of Crime Act 1953-the one that reverses the burden of proof onto the defendant to show on the balance of probabilities that they had lawful authority or a reasonable excuse for carrying a weapon in public.

Younger Police Officers in the UK do not know about our English tradition of having defensive weapons and think that such an idea is straight out of the USA! (if it were not so serious I would laugh). They think that only the Police have the God given right to self protection and I fear that becoming the only 'armed class' of citizen is one reason lots of youngsters become Police Officers these days. They talk in contempt about the 'mentality' of those people who want to buy a weapon that was designed for the single purpose of inflicting injury and cannot see the difference between lawful violence and unlawful violence. They are becoming an elite who see themselves as 'above' the ordinary citizens.

People are being victimised in the UK every day because of these horrible attitudes towards weapons and ordinary people.
 
buy a ceramic or zytel polymer knife, it won't show up on metal detectors
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Got 2:evil:

get a little NAA blackpowder derringer
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Mines a Freedom Arms instead of NAA which makes it Better:D

This thread was purely hypothetical
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I'm Glad someone picked up on that.

They outlawed the sale of non metalic knives in 2004-unless it is for use in the catering industry or sold as a toy
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Are you sure about that?

Non-metallic are still available in the UK from a few vendors.( and I'm not talking about cookery knives)
 
They banned 'stealth knives'. Although to the law says 'which has a blade, or sharp point, made from a material that is not readily detectable by apparatus used for detecting metal' I do still see ceramic folders for sale. I assume the law is being interpreted as meaning 'knives that don't get detected by metal detectors' i.e. it can have a ceramic blade as long as it has metal liners/scales etc. There is also an interesting exemption for knives 'which are designed for domestic use'. I have no idea what that means in law...does that mean a full-on stealth knife is legal if I'm going to be using it around the house?

In the same law they outlawed "a straight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheon (sometimes known as a baton)". A cookie to the man who can guess how I got around that law?
 
That must be why the cold steel nightshade series are sold over here with a metal split ring through the lanyard hole:confused:

Don't know how you got round the baton ban, I just went out and got mine before the ban came in:)

Or did you get a flexible one? donations from charitable police officers are always welcome, thats how I got my ballistic vest:D
 
No mention of Autolocks either.

They definately banned the sale of non metalic knives, it was part of the same SI that banned the sale of batons.

Coshes and tonfas and other types of 'martial arts' sticks are still for sale though.

The Cold Steel Nighhtshade series have a metal ring so it can be argued that they are not designed to be over looked by metal detectors. So far there as bene no Case Law to ascertain their status one way or another though.

In fact it was the sale of Cold Steel non metalic knives that prompted the ban in the first place going on the marketing blurb that was quoted in Parliament as the reason for the new Law!

Interestingly enough eBay still allow them to be sold - and they are usually quite keen to enforce such things.
 
At the end of the day, you can buy just abotu anything as long as you keep it at home. Unlike firearms, there is no real police interest in things like automatic knives, batons and 'stealth knives'. Assisted openers for instance, are actually illegal I reckon (read the law and you'll see why) but they're still imported by the hundred and sold. As long as you don't get caught with it in the street or stab anyone with it, it's not really a problem. But if you're looking to use something for self-defence, make sure it's legal e.g. lose the ASP baton, get a baseball bat.

Also, the ban was not on non-metallic knives, but on

"a knife or spike, which has a blade, or sharp point, made from a material that is not readily detectable by apparatus used for detecting metal and which is not designed for domestic use or for use in the processing, preparation or consumption of food or as a toy"

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2004/20041271.htm
 
bad idea, if your that close use mace/pepper spray, a taser, a knife, or a swift kick. all are more effective then an airsoft gun for self defense.
 
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