AK47 - Set trigger for single or two-stage operation?

[Logistar]

I installed a RED STAR ARMS adjustible trigger in my SAR-1. I really don't know the advantages and disadvantages of using a single stage trigger vs a 2-stage trigger. (It is currently set as a two-stage trigger at 4 lbs.)

I know the difference in the definition (2-stage has intentional "takeup" and single fires as soon as pressure is put on the trigger).

This gun is mostly used for plinking but may occasionally will be used for hunting. Also, self-defense is a possibility.

Comments?

THANKS!

 

[.45&TKD]

I don't know. but I am curious to know also.

I have a Romanian SAR-1, also. Runs flawless with 150 rounds through it. No trigger slap yet.

I was wondering how much improvement there would be with a RSA trigger?

Was it hard to put in?

Since most of my weapons are for self defense and SHTF scenarios, I figured I would go with a single stage trigger, but I am no expert on the subject.

 

[.45&TKD]

How difficult is it to adjust from double stage trigger to single stage trigger? Is there a lot involved?

 

[Logistar]

I was wondering how much improvement there would be with a RSA trigger?

The difference is dramatic. My SAR developed slap after shooting it for a year and a half. It was fine until then. The RED STAR ARMS trigger is very nice and very adjustible. I would have replaced it BEFORE I developed slap if I had known how much better this trigger is!

Was it hard to put in?

Not at all. The most difficult thing was trying to read the directions. They weren't wrong or anything. They just seemed to sound "complicated". It is rather obvious how to remove the old trigger and replace this one. It needed no adjustment really. But I can never leave well enough alone and so I "played" with it. It has a 2 stage trigger now. I adjusted for a lighter pull but I felt it was "too light" so turned the adjustment back a little.

OH! I did order and replace the "shepherd's crook" (??) The replacement was VERY easy to install. - Much easier than wrestling with that "wire" that came in it.

Overall replacement is VERY easy. It should be no problem for anyone.

How difficult is it to adjust from double stage trigger to single stage trigger? Is there a lot involved?

You just use a (supplied) allen wrench to do the job. I have not actually done that yet. I am trying to avoid loosening up the locktite on the screws. (They sent me a small supply with the trigger.) After trying it like this I might experiment with it. I was just wondering what the "experts" thought about the mode of operation.

I haven't tried any other triggers in an AK but I CAN tell you that this is MUCH better than the original Century one! I wish I'd replaced it right from the beginning.

 

[Gewehr98]

Ok, for the big question...

I need a replacement for my own trigger-slapping SAR-1. The Red Star adjustable FCG is obviously the cream of the crop. But what about the replacement FCG that Tapco is selling - it still gets rid of the trigger slap, right? I don't need a match-grade trigger for my rifle, just a smooth-pulling one that doesn't smack me back with each pull. Anybody work with the Tapco version? Comments?

 

[.45&TKD]

I haven't tried any other triggers in an AK but I CAN tell you that this is MUCH better than the original Century one! I wish I'd replaced it right from the beginning.

Thanks! I'll put a new RSA trigger at the top of my list.

 

[Eric86GT]

I've heard the RSA triggers are the best for AKs, but I couldn't justify paying double the price of a Tapco G2. Both my Saigas have G2s and I like them a lot. No trigger slap and nice light pulls. I ruined the hammer (pure stupidity on my part) on my first G2 and saw that I could either buy an RSA hammer for $30 or get a complete First Son Enterprises FCG for the same price. I elected to get the FSE FCG reasoning that I would have a spare trigger and disconnector by doing so.

I removed the rest of the Tapco FCG and installed the FSE FCG and didn't like the pull. It felt gritty and wasn't as light as the G2. I then reinstalled the G2 trigger and disconnector.

 

[chevrofreak]

Two-stage military type triggers have a soft initial travel that is aproximately 1/2 to 2/3 of the total trigger pull. You then get to a higher level of resistance but the pull through that is short. This allows you to get a good sight picture before the final squeeze. A single stage trigger is one solid pull all the way through.

Personally I prefer mine. It is a stock MAK-90 trigger group that I added an overtravel stop to, and a takeup limiter. unfortunately it disables the safety, unless you modify the safety to clear the disconnector and trigger.

Check this out, it is one sweeeeeeet trigger now.

http://files.chevrofreak.com/MOV02029.MPG