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Alan Keyes For President 2008!

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http://www.bradycampaign.org/press/release.php?release=580

Alan Keyes, the Maryland resident running for the Illinois Senate, said yesterday that machine guns should be legal.

Not semiautomatic assault weapons, mind you -- the guns that were outlawed 10 years ago. Mr. Keyes is for legal machine guns, which came under extraordinary federal regulation in the 1930s after the guns were misused by another guy named Al - Al Capone.

The manufacture of new machine guns was banned under the McClure-Volkmer Act of 1986.

Keyes' comments, published today in the Chicago Sun-Times, were made at a press conference in which he was criticizing "ideological extremism" of his opponent.

"Alan Keyes sees a country where every American should be armed to the hilt with the most deadly firepower imaginable," said Jim Brady, an Illinois native who served as President Ronald Reagan's press secretary. "I cannot fathom how he could come up with such a notion. It's insane."

There are only five days left when Congress is in session before the expiration of the Assault Weapons Ban - a law that President Bush pledged he'd renew as a candidate for President in 2000. If the ban expires, Alan Keyes will be able to fire semiautomatic assault weapons to his heart's content - but there's no current legislation that will give him his machine guns.

Anyone catch "If the ban expires, Alan Keyes will be able to fire semiautomatic assault weapons to his heart's content"?

I guess we can't fire "semiautomatic assault weapons" right now.
 
He supports exemption of 'slave descendants' from federal income tax for a generation.

Personally I'd be willing to tolerate that foolishness if it meant legal machine guns.
 
Personally I'd be willing to tolerate that foolishness if it meant legal machine guns.


Spoken like a true one issue voter.

No way would I go for it. It is unfair. No one in the U.S. is a slave, nor have they ever been. Exempting someone now from income tax does nothing to make amends for slavery.

I can't believe anyone would be willing to make that trade.

I thought a lot of Keyes til he came up with this assanine plan.
 
Wow, if Keyes really said this, about the exemption thing, my opinion of him has fallen.
Can somebody provide some sort of documentation/news article to point me to?
 
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=62728

"I have also made it clear that while I believe that the descendants of slaves would be helped by this period of tax relief, my firm goal and ultimate objective is to replace the income tax, and thereby free all Americans from this insidious form of tax slavery. It is well known that this is one of the key priorities of the Keyes campaign."


Search on Google, terms "Alen Keyes reparations" brings up lots of hits.
 
He issued a statement that said only for a 'generation or two".

Riiiiiiight. A generation or two of tax free living would be wonderful for anyone. But who does he think he is kidding- a generation or two?

I had nothing to do with slavery or segragation, or any of it. My family isn't rich-we work for everything we have, and I can remember times when I was a child where my mother didn't eat dinner so I could. Been there done that. I served in the USMC with 'dark' greens that I would fought and die for, and they for me-we all got paid the same and were treated the same because were are the same.

I would love to have tax free living for my family and my children. I can't however in this scheme-I'm not the preferred race. My neighbors however, who make as much money as I do, will instantly get an incredible boost of living standard-just for being the preferred race and for having the good familial genes to come from someone who suffered from being a slave.

I will never agree too this-preferential treatment based on skin color is wrong, period. This scheme is patently unfair, and as is, turns me into a one vote person (against Keyes) as much as I am with the 2nd.

Cruc
 
"He supports exemption of 'slave descendants' from federal income tax for a generation. Not everybody, just them."

But under the "equal rights and protections clauses" wouldn't it have to be applied to everyone?

Geoff
Who loves sneaky libertarians. :cool:
 
You beat me to it.

Since libertarians want to gut the government anyway, they ought to support a massive reduction in the tax base.
 
I'm getting the impression that Keyes has 're-evaluated' some of his earlier positions in a bid to get elected.

I could be wrong, but I saw an interview with him, and he was stretching trying to defend some of his new positions...he also came across a little 'on edge'.

- Gabe
 
I always disagreed with Keyes on a fair number of issues, but respected him for his principled stands.

Now I just disagree with him.

It's really pathetic; It's bad enough to sell your integrity for office, but to sell your integrity for a slightly smaller margin of defeat? Unprincipled AND lacking in judgement.
 
No way, I want Jeb Bush in 2008. Another 12 years of the Bush family will leave their likeness burned into the mush the liberals call brains for all eternity. :D
 
I think that the 'tax relief' for a generation comes with some hooks. . . IE byebye affirmative action, quotas, and all that. Hopefully it would also have a definate expiration date. And you have to PROVE that you're decended from slaves, which alot of the blacks aren't.

Besides, has anybody figured out how much income tax the 'former slave' category actually pays? I imagine it really wouldn't hurt the rolls too much, given what I've heard (The lower half of america doesn't pay any income taxes anyways, and blacks are 'disadvantaged').
 
I saw the interview where they asked him about the slave exemption.

Keyes said: I don't believe in quotas, and affirmative action the way it is currently implemented.

He said:
A good way to erase entitlement programs would be to have slave decendents skip one generation of paying taxes so they could build up some wealth and pass it on to their children. After that point all bets are off, no more excuses and no more hand outs...ever.

Even after slavery blacks were given a raw deal, voting rights, Jim Crow laws, segregation, no equal protection etc....

His logic is that other groups had a chance to function normally in society, build some wealth and property to pass along to future generations where blacks did not.

I'm not sure if I agree with him on that issue but I will trade it for machine guns any day.
 
"A good way to erase entitlement programs would be to have slave decendents skip one generation of paying taxes so they could build up some wealth and pass it on to their children. After that point all bets are off, no more excuses and no more hand outs...ever."

Hmmmm, might just be a better plan than thought at first glance.
 
This country tore itself to shreds over slavery. If the civil war wasn't enough payment for slavery, nothing ever will be. How many Americans had their heads blown open, their arms and legs blown off. How many families lost their patriarchs, sons? What now, a couple thousand bucks and everything is hunky dory?

This whole reparations BS makes me want to vomit.

- Gabe
 
"A good way to erase entitlement programs would be to have slave decendents skip one generation of paying taxes so they could build up some wealth and pass it on to their children. After that point all bets are off, no more excuses and no more hand outs...ever."
So immigrants wold get it too. After all, most of them come here penniless, and should be able to build up some wealth for thier progeny.
 
Aw, c'mon, Gifted. That's really stretching it just way too far. At least stay within screaming distance of what the man said, regardless of your like or dislike of his idea...

Art
 
I'm of Irish ancestry. I want reparations from Great Britain. The English have been trying to kill us off for 600 years.
 
Spoken like a true one issue voter.

I suppose I'm a one-issue voter, too. :)

Many of the people Keyes is referring to don't even pay income tax in the first place.

Show me another candidate running on a major party ticket that endorses lifting the MG ban. Can't find any? What a surprise! :rolleyes:

Keyes for president in 2008!
 
Entitlement programs are ALWAYS a bad idea. However, this s one of the very few flaws with Keyes platform. Everything else is right on. He is a man of principle and conviction and would go far to bringing this country back to firm ground.
 
Please support Keyes

While not a perfect man, Alan Keyes is heads and tails above Barrick Obama who plays the liberal line like a Whoremonica in Bill Clinton's hand.

Please consider supporting Mr. Keyes financially. I did.


http://www.keyesforsenate.com/
 
How 'bout decendents get a tax break on taxes they would have paid at the going wage rate when their ancestors were slaves if there had been an income tax back then.

For instance, daily wage during time of slavery less than .25 cents a day. They get a tax break on the .01 cents to .25 cents per day or .009 cents - .25 cents per day. Sounds as fare and makes as much sense as other reparation schemes.

How's this for reparation? They're not slaves anymore.
 
Show me another candidate running on a major party ticket that endorses lifting the MG ban.

Senate candidate for Colorado Pete Coors (R) - Not only that but he has a realistic chance to get elected, which Keyes does not.

Between Obama and Keyes I guess I would choose Keyes; but a lot of his public statements lately such as calling Cheney's daughter a "selfish hedonist" or the issue of slave reparations make me wonder if this guy is playing with a full deck.
 
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