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Another school shooting - Cold Spring MN

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BryanP, Sep 24, 2003.

  1. BryanP

    BryanP Senior Member

    May 25, 2003
    Lavergne, TN

    School shooting leaves one student dead, another injured
    Updated: 09-24-2003 02:39:26 PM

    COLD SPRING – One student is dead and another hospitalized aftera shooting inside a Minnesota high school.
    The shooting happened around 11:35 a.m. inside of Rocori High School in Cold Spring during a physical education class. Authorities said one of the victims was shot in the school's gymnasium, and the other was shot in the weight room.

    Physical education teacher Mark Johnson took the suspect into custody, the district said. According to authorities, the teacher talked the student into surrendering.

    Cold Spring Police Chief Phil Jones confirmed that one of the injured students had died.

    "The word 'tragedy' is used a lot, this is it," Jones said. "It really can't get any worse than this. We're a small community."

    The Stearns County sheriff's department said it has recovered a small-caliber handgun from the scene

    Eyewitness News has learned that one of the injured students was shot in the head, and the other was shot in the abdomen. It is not known which of the injured students had died.

    The school went into what's called "code red" immediately after the shooting. Teachers closed and locked all doors and kept students inside their classrooms. One classroom, according to a source inside the school, also barricaded the door with bookshelves.

    Later, the school was evacuated and students were sent home. The building, along with Rocori Middle School, closed at 1 p.m.
    In addition to those two closings, all three elementary schools in the district closed at 2 p.m. This included Cold Spring, Richmond and John Clark schools.

    The name for Rocori Area School District comes from the first two letters of each of the communities it serves -- Rockville, Cold Spring and Richmond. The district serves 26-hundred students in elementary, middle and high schools, and is located about 60 miles northwest of the Twin Cities.

    Doug Gary of the Minnesota Department of Education said that, to the best of the department's records, there has never been a fatal shooting on school grounds in the state.

    However, according to the National School Safety Center, there was a shooting death suicide at Middle River School in Middle River Minnesota in Frebruary 1993. In that incident, a 14 year old student shot himself in the head with a rifle he had brought to school

    Gray said that there was one "serious incident" at Ricori High School during the 2001-2002 school year. That incident, he said, did not involve a gun.

    Authorities from the state patrol, Cold Spring, Stearns County, Waite Park, St. Joseph and the state Department of Natural Resources all responded to the shooting.
  2. jfh

    jfh Senior Member

    Aug 28, 2003
    Maple Plain, MN
    one of two shot died--the senior.

    For those of you who don't know it, this area of MN is about on the periphery of Garrison Keillor's Lake Woebegon homeland.

    webmaster: I could not delete my post on this same subject--either merge with this one, or delete mine. Thank you.

    Jim H.
  3. Country Boy

    Country Boy Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Wow. I teach about 120 miles from there.
  4. WonderNine

    WonderNine member

    Dec 27, 2002
    always offline!
  5. WonderNine

    WonderNine member

    Dec 27, 2002
    always offline!
    Arg, I posted this in Legal/Political, didn't see this post here already.
  6. gun-fucious

    gun-fucious Participating Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    centre of the PA
    i heard an "expert" on the radio last month that was surprised
    at the amount of violence so early in the 2003-2004 school year

    Usually the kids take till spring to get this annoyed with each other.
  7. zahc

    zahc Participating Member

    Mar 23, 2003
    I really wish I could carry to college. Sincerely.
  8. TarpleyG

    TarpleyG Senior Member

    Dec 28, 2002
    North Carolina
    I have some questions...

    1) How long 'til the "authorities" showed up?
    2) Where'd the "small caliber gun" come from?
    3) Didn't the kid know it was illegal to take a gun on school property?
    4) Why wasn't every teacher armed and this punk shot dead in his tracks?
    5) Are the kid's parents going to beat him to death before trial?

  9. Standing Wolf

    Standing Wolf Member in memoriam

    Dec 24, 2002
    Idahohoho, the jolliest state
    I'm sure the leftist extremists were terribly disappointed the killer wasn't one of Minnesota's new C.C.W. holders.
  10. Betty

    Betty Active Member

    Dec 19, 2002
    Nashville, TN, USA
    Merging threads, please stand by......
  11. SteelyDan

    SteelyDan Participating Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    My heart goes out to the families involved, but there is a lesson here. Schools were specifically excepted from the recent and otherwise broad conceal and carry law, meaning that the legislature declared schools to be gun free zones. So how could this possibly happen? It wasn't legal for the shooter to have the gun?

    Oh yeah, maybe only law-abiding folks obey the law in the first place. And every time the legislatures (or private property owners) restrict the right to carry, they only succeed in creating situations where the lawbreakers will be the only ones with guns.

    To the best of my knowledge, there just isn't any credible evidence that banning guns reduces violent crimes. Even if such evidence magically appeared overnight, I would consider it, but I would still have a hard time abandoning my fundamental belief that--whatever the 2nd Amendment means--the private ownership of guns is essential to protect us from the enemies within.

    Must go adjust tinfoil hat...
  12. Airboss

    Airboss Member

    Jun 4, 2003

    Looks like the Signs didn't work
    The School needs more Signs
    "Don't kill or wound fellow students or Teachers"
    Yeah that's it more signs:banghead:
    Maybe we could get them to just post a sign
    "Don't Kill People"
    Schools Being gun Free Zones really really work don't they?????

    If I taught any where in this country I would carry!
  13. Andrew Rothman

    Andrew Rothman Senior Member

    Aug 21, 2003
    From Minneapolis Star Tribune

    Student dead, another critically wounded; classmate, 15, held
    Richard Meryhew, Sharon Schmickle and Chuck Haga, Star Tribune

    Published September 25, 2003

    COLD SPRING, MINN. -- The 15-year-old son of a veteran Stearns County sheriff's deputy allegedly shot two fellow students at Rocori High School on Wednesday morning, killing one and leaving the other critically wounded.

    The carnage ended when gym teacher Mark Johnson, 50, raised his hand to Jason McLaughlin as the boy trained a small-caliber handgun on the teacher.

    "No!" Johnson said, and McLaughlin lowered the gun and set it down on the gym floor, where Seth Bartell, like McLaughlin a freshman, lay bleeding from gunshot wounds. Johnson picked up the gun and escorted McLaughlin to a school office, where he was held by staff until police arrived.

    Bartell and Aaron Rollins, a senior, were taken to St. Cloud Hospital, where Rollins was pronounced dead at 12:56 p.m., after paramedics and emergency room personnel feverishly administered CPR, officials said. He died of a wound to the base of his neck.

    Bartell remained in critical condition late Wednesday after several hours in emergency surgery. He suffered a gunshot wound to the front of the head that Dr. Stephen Jameson, an emergency-room physician, said "traversed quite a bit of the brain."

    Authorities would not speculate about a motive for the shootings.

    Phil Jones, Cold Spring police chief, said he was on the scene within 1 1/2 minutes of the call. "My primary concern was to make sure the suspect was disarmed and that other students were not in harm's way," he said. "After I briefly interviewed the suspect, I was as confident as I could be at that time that he was a lone shooter."

    Brian Athman, who also teaches phys ed but was in the health classroom at the time of the shooting, said there is no indication that the suspect knew Bartell or Rollins. "What I am hearing is that Aaron just happened to be in the wrong place," he said.

    McLaughlin was held initially in an administration office in the high school, "under staff control," until he was taken to the Stearns County jail. He is the son of longtime Stearns County Sheriff's Deputy David McLaughlin, who is also a member of a regional law-enforcement narcotics task force.

    Deputy Dave Nohner said no charges will likely be filed until Friday.

    Sheriff John Sanner said the 911 call came in about 11:38 a.m. from a school secretary.

    Officials had declared a "Code Red" directing all staff and students at the school, which has an enrollment of 829, to remain in or find a secure location. Sanner said the school district "did a tremendous job on its lockdown."

    He said he believes about 30 students witnessed the shootings, and investigators continued interviewing them late Wednesday.

    "Cold Spring, Minnesota, is a very close-knit community," Sanner said. "When something like this happens, it shakes the foundation of everyone who lives here. It's just very, very hard to understand."

    Superintendent Scott Staska said there was "no reason to expect an incident like this" involving McLaughlin. "There were some typical issues in the past, but nothing that would lead us to something like this," he said. He would not elaborate on the "typical issues."

    No high school today

    Because the high school is a crime scene, it probably will not reopen until Friday, the superintendent said.

    The elementary school was to reopen at its regular time of 9 a.m. today and have a regular school day. Classes were to be delayed two hours at the middle school, in another part of town.

    A debriefing was scheduled at midmorning today for high school students and their parents, where school officials will explain what services are available.

    Jameson said Bartell got to the hospital first, about 12:30 p.m. He also suffered a gunshot wound to the chest, which Jameson classified "as much less severe."

    Asked why Bartell was brought to the hospital by air and Rollins by land, Jameson said that, typically, emergency medical technicians will send by air the victim "that's most likely to survive."

    "The next hours, the next 24 hours, are critical for his survival," he said Wednesday evening of Bartell.

    Dr. Samuel Whitlock, St. Cloud Hospital vice president of medical affairs, said families of both victims did not want to talk to the media on Wednesday.

    "The families are in a state of shock and extreme grief," he said. He added that hospital officials have talked extensively with the families and offered counseling, psychological services and chaplain services.

    As third period ended Wednesday morning and students began moving to the cafeteria or other rooms, Sean Dailey, 15, met McLaughlin leaving a gymnasium locker room.

    "I said, 'Hey, what's up?" Dailey said. "But he just walked past."

    Moments later, Dailey's brother, Chad, said he saw McLaughlin enter the gymnasium, "his hands in his sweatshirt." Chad Dailey, 14, turned away to talk to a friend. Then he heard a gunshot. His friend "felt the round go by his face," Dailey said, "and the bullet hit Seth in the forehead."

    After shooting Rollins, the suspect then went up the stairs to the gym, where he shot Bartell, Athman said.

    Several teachers, including Johnson and Mary Kelsey, tried to save the students. Johnson performed CPR on Rollins and Kelsey used anything within reach -- her sweatshirt, her coat, towels -- to try to stem Rollins' bleeding.

    Jenna Beuning, a senior, was in her technical writing class when the Code Red sounded.

    "We all had to sit still and not move," she said. "At first we thought it was a drill. Some students were laughing. They thought it was a joke. But I was scared."

    Students sat in classrooms for an hour and a half.

    In a computer lab, some students logged onto the Internet to learn what was happening. They begged their teacher to let them watch on TV, and eventually the teacher allowed that. The students couldn't believe what they were seeing -- and that they were sitting in a building where something that unimaginable had happened.

    "Why our school?" Beuning wondered. "We weren't known for anything like that."

    She had a cell phone, but the circuits were jammed so she couldn't get through to her parents or anyone else.

    Suspect 'picked on'

    Chad Dailey said that McLaughlin may have felt himself the victim of bullying. "He was picked on, and people called him a loser," he said.

    Others described McLaughlin differently -- a normal kid from a nice family.

    "This is surreal," said Brianna Sullivan, who lives across the street from the McLaughlins. "I can't believe this is happening."

    Kevin Sullivan, Brianna's father, agreed. He said he'd never had any misgivings about his daughter hanging out with Jason. "He wasn't a mean kid who seemed hurtful," Kevin Sullivan said. "He wasn't one of those freaked-out kids that you'd think would do something like this."

    The name for Rocori Area School district comes from the first two letters of each of the communities it serves: Rockville, Cold Spring and Richmond. The district serves 2,673 students in elementary, middle and high schools, and is located about 60 miles northwest of the Twin Cities.

    State Education Commissioner Cheri Pierson Yecke said the state developed a plan for school safety and dealing with a crisis following school shootings in other states.

    "One hundred percent of the school districts have those crisis plans in place, including Rocori High School," Yecke said. "We commend the school personnel, law enforcement and the students who acted quickly and responsibly.

    "Safety of students is of primary importance."

    Staff writers Jill Burcum, Randy Furst, Matt McKinney, James Walsh and Warren Wolfe contributed to this report.

    The writers are at StateNews@startribune.com.
  14. greyhound

    greyhound Participating Member

    May 17, 2003
    Birmingham, AL
    Good Lord, hasn't school only been in session for like 3 weeks? For this kid to be bulllied so badly in that short of a time it must have been really bad. And if he was a freshman, didn't that mean he went to a different school last year? (Though I guess the bullies may have followed him from the other school.)

    These school shootings are a big problem. Every time one happens it puts the idea in some other tormented kids' head, and the media goes nuts, which doesn't help either.

    Prediction: Somehow, the screeching Leftists in MN are going to use this to justify the repeal of CCW. Not sure how, maybe linking it to some overall "cycle of violence" or some other nonsensical but deep sounding sound byte.:banghead:
  15. El Tejon

    El Tejon Elder

    Dec 24, 2002
    Lafayette, Indiana-the Ned Flanders neighbor to Il
    I hear the flapping of wings.

    The socialistic nihilists in public education teach the children that human life has no value. The chickens are coming home to roost.
  16. hillbilly

    hillbilly Senior Member

    Jul 10, 2003
    Only the cops should have guns! Only the cops should have guns! Only the.......

    Uh, what job did this school shooter's dad do????

    Uh, where do you figure the gun came from??????

    Uh, nevermind about only the cops having guns............

  17. Mark Tyson

    Mark Tyson Senior Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Where the one eyed man is king
    I haven't heard any clamour at the national level for any more civilian disarmament as a result of this crime, as happened as recently as early 2001. It seems people are refusing to blame inanimate objects for the evil actions of human beings. What on Earth is going on here?
  18. powerstrk

    powerstrk New Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    According to the news last night the father of the shooter is in Law Enforcement, but would not give a name or capacity.
  19. Apple a Day

    Apple a Day Senior Member

    Dec 24, 2002
    First the hurricane, now this.
    It's way too early in the year for this to be happening. Gun-fucious is right about the fact that usually this sort of thing happens in the spring, when the sap starts to run and the kids get antsy. That's when the kids reach exhaustion, during the Christmas to Spring Break stretch, the hormones go into overdrive, and the fights break out. This doesn't bode well for the rest of the year.
    I am doubly worried that some terrorist nut will pick up the idea... I won't go into all the horrible scenarious that have played through my mind as I see these stories and then have to walk into the building to teach in the mornings. I don't want to plant weeds in the fertilizer.
    HDAM (Head Down, Afterparts Moving)
  20. TallPine

    TallPine Mentor

    Dec 26, 2002
    somewhere in the middle of Montana
    El Tejon has it right.

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