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Anti-Gun Low Life Profits from VT murders

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by sig228, May 9, 2007.

  1. sig228

    sig228 Well-Known Member

    By selling website domain names that he set up right after the murders.


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    Last edited: May 10, 2007
  2. sadhvacman

    sadhvacman Well-Known Member

    What a GREEDY IDIOT!Gun murder industry?????? What a load of crap!!!!!!
  3. texas bulldog

    texas bulldog Well-Known Member

    ah...cybersquatting is alive and well. i remember the first time i heard of this [in '98, i believe] when people were buying up web addresses for the names of college athletes likely to go pro. warrensapp.com was one example, IIRC.

    i thought then that you'd have to be a real prick to make a living that way, and my opinion is unchanged. this is just classless...
  4. tenbase

    tenbase Well-Known Member

    my unsolicited advice is to not give them any more pageviews.
  5. TCB in TN

    TCB in TN Well-Known Member

    Some people are just trash, others make a living out of being trash. Either way it is just sad!
  6. benelli12

    benelli12 Well-Known Member

    Nazi? maybe?

    MDW GUNS Well-Known Member

    tenbase is right, don't bring this *$$**** rating up by visiting this trash site!
  8. yhtomit

    yhtomit Well-Known Member

    It's just a domain name

    If I owned that domain name, I might use it to fill with things akin to Oleg's posters. There *were* murders at VA Tech, and that domain name is rationally valuable. Of course, there are always other names that anyone who wants can register (until / unless someone *else* does, of course).

    Hyphens between those words!

    Abbreviate differently!

    Use synonyms or near-enoughs! (shootings / murder / killings / tragedy)

    Then you can put your own message on that space.

  9. obxned

    obxned Well-Known Member

    Why are you surprised by this?
  10. hankdatank1362

    hankdatank1362 Well-Known Member

    I hope he rots.:fire: :fire: :fire:
  11. The Unknown User

    The Unknown User Well-Known Member

    Absolutely despicable.
  12. david_the_greek

    david_the_greek Well-Known Member

    my god the absolute disregard for truth makes me want to vomit my delcious oberon. the absolute disregard for the tragedy that occured is about t to push that feeling into reality
  13. JohnBT

    JohnBT Well-Known Member

    "On the same day the victims' names were released, people began registering domains named after the dead, such as JarrettLane.com."

    "When Fred McChesney heard about the Virginia Tech shooting spree on April 16, he was appalled. But what he did next has appalled many others. Within hours of the rampage, the Phoenix man began buying dozens of domain names - CampusKillings.com, VirginiaTechMurders.com, SlaughterInVirginia.com - in the hopes of selling them later to the highest bidder.

    McChesney, 48, said he saw it as an opportunity to show his contempt for firearms by featuring anti-gun content on the domains he is selling.

    He also saw it as an opportunity to cash in.

    "Everyone is profiting off of this," McChesney said. "I'm not hurting anyone."

    Domain names related to the tragedy were snapped up almost immediately by people hoping to sell them off for a profit or use them to link to advertisers. The cost of registering such domains is generally less than $10 - but some are now being auctioned off for thousands.

    While many consider the practice repellant, experts say it has become commonplace.

    "Any time there's a big news event, people go register the domain names," said Christine Jones, general counsel for GoDaddy.com, the world's largest domain registration service. "Nine-eleven they did it, Katrina they did it, the tsunami in southeast Asia they did it."

    Especially troubling to some is the registration of domain names related to those killed in the tragedy. On the same day the victims' names were released, people began registering domains named after the dead, such as JarrettLane.com. Victims' friends and family members seeking to create a memorial site under the same Internet address would then have to purchase it from the domain name owner - for whatever price the owner wants.

    "If anybody is working to make a profit off of this tragedy by selling these kinds of things, it's just a crying shame," university spokesman Mark Owczarski said. "Obviously, you wouldn't want anybody to make a profit off something as horrendous as this."

    Jeremiah Johnston, chief operating officer for domain name broker Sedo.com, said his company has shut down domains named after the victims as well as dozens of others related to the tragedy, including BlacksburgBloodbath.com and SchoolSlaughter.com.

    "We do feel that they fly in the face of our offensive domain policy," Johnston said. "It is quite tasteless."

    GoDaddy.com shut down one site purporting to raise money for the victims' families after university officials said they weren't aware of any such charity, Jones said.

    But in general, there are few restrictions on what people can register. The Internet's key oversight agency, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, has arbitration procedures for resolving disputes, but they cover only trademarks and service marks, which can include names of celebrities. Federal laws also focus on trademark owners, not the names of non-famous individuals such as the victims.

    "It's kind of exploitative, but it's not really cybersquatting," University of South Carolina cyberspace law professor Ann Bartow said. "It's socially, normatively disgusting, but it's not trademark bad faith."

    McChesney, who has been "hugely anti-gun" since his brother shot him in the face with a BB gun when he was a child, said he hopes to use some of his domains to draw attention to what he calls an epidemic of gun violence in America.

    He also plans to give away his memorial domain names to Virginia Tech students, and has donated one so far. He hopes to sell others, such as VaTechTheMovie.com, to companies. So far, he hasn't sold any.

    He understands that many will vilify him. But he doesn't think he's doing anything wrong.

    "What I'm doing is the equivalent of rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic," he said. "Period.""

    Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed
  14. Double Naught Spy

    Double Naught Spy Sus Venator

    Gun stores are profiting from the event as well, plus many folks in the personal and public defense industry. Does that make them low lifes?
  15. nezumi

    nezumi Well-Known Member

    There's a difference between profiting without any action on your part, and intentionally capitalizing on something. A gun store that says 'don't be a Va. Tech victim! Buy my guns!' is treading a thin line.

    Sig 228, perhaps you should break up the URL, both to discourage people here from giving the site new hits, and to discourage google from putting it higher up on its search results?
  16. Old Fuff

    Old Fuff Well-Known Member

    What would happen if someone registered a name like: StopCampusKilling and used it to promote the right of administrators, staff and students to carry concealed weapons on campus?

    I admit that I see what McChesney is doing is reprehensible, as his prime motive is to make money. But maybe it's time too do something on our side that would be on a higher level.

    If he can't be stopped, maybe he might be beat...
  17. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

    Perhaps if a gun store were holding a "Virginia Tech Memorial Sale- Buy a Glock, get a Walther for free" day.

    But law abiding citizens who have had an epiphany about self defense in the wake of a tragedy, and who choose to take responsibility for their own safety via the purchase of a firearm are hardly helping anyone to profit as a result of the VT shootings.
  18. G36-UK

    G36-UK Well-Known Member

    How about someone offers to buy "lessonsofvatech.com" and promise to devote it to gun control?

    He doesn't say which side you have to devote it to, so you could add facts and posters like Oleg's quite truthful sets.

    If this liar's going to start using the memories of the innocent to attack equally innocent gun owners, no reason they can't be useful.
  19. Tin Gizel

    Tin Gizel Well-Known Member

    Here's some more info from an IT buddy of mine....

    "This is a money making scheme that I truly hope fails but right now it is impossible to get information relating to the domain.

    The owner is using a service called “domain by proxy” in which he pays the company domain by proxy to register the domains he wants. Since they are registering on his behalf it is their information in all the whois databases. Right now the only port open to that site is port 80 and they have some pretty simple HTML so getting it hacked it next to impossible.

    We could start an online petition to persuade the domains by proxy that the domain is in “poor taste” and the owner seeks to profit off the suffering of others. "
  20. Double Naught Spy

    Double Naught Spy Sus Venator

    No, it isn't about having an epiphany, but those like nezumi mentioned who play on the hype in order to sell more of a product.

    Interesting thing about many self defense epiphanies, the epiphany seems to fade quickly as folks return to condition white.

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