CMP
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Like the title asks I was wondering if there are any good 40rd ar-15 mags? I seen some at a gun show and they seem to be decent quality and almost got one but passed. They had anti-tilt followers.
Any good 40rd ar-15 mags?
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kwelz
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None that I have seen.
janobles14
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likewise on the "no". i had a few over the years and most all of them would FTF around the 7 round mark (meaning that there were 31 rounds or so left).
Look at the mags made by Tripp Research. Friend of mine uses their 42 round mag, fully loaded, in his 3 Gun rifle and has never had an issue. The 52 round mag Tripp makes does not feed as well but he loves the 42 round one.
CMP
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Wow $119! hmm, well im gonna look into the dpms and C products. chuwee81 I need you to do some more research for me on the c products 40 haha. If the dpms 45er is real good I might end up with that one even for $75
Yeah not cheap at all, but they function.
CMP
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I would hope so! for that they should be amazing, but I do bet their rock solid.
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Yeah forgot about those but im not the biggest fan of two mags clamped togather, just looks funny. im sure they work fine, magpul has about the same set up
CMP,
You're just a little ways down the road from me in Haslett.
If you haven't heard of us, check it out. www.actshooters.com
Next competition is this Saturday. It's gonna be a cold one and I'll be home watching tv because I'm a puss. But feel free to drop by to watch and ask questions, everyone is cool and are more than happy to help out.
You're just a little ways down the road from me in Haslett.
If you haven't heard of us, check it out. www.actshooters.com
Next competition is this Saturday. It's gonna be a cold one and I'll be home watching tv because I'm a puss. But feel free to drop by to watch and ask questions, everyone is cool and are more than happy to help out.
Justin
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Justin
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40 and 50 round magazines can be quite handy for run 'n' gun 3gun stages. What are you, some kind of anti? 
CMP
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Thanks guys, well at first I will be using it for fun, but I would like to get into three gun shoots within the next year or so...Still need the three guns im gonna us though. I plan on my AR, beretta 92fs and a saiga 12 to start out with, what do you guys think about that? would that be fine to start with for 3 gun? Oh and HJ857 I might just have to go see that, thanks.
I believe that will put you in open class. Be ready to run with the guys that have way too much money and all the cool toys. You might think about a pump or non external magazine shotgun. Justin runs a left handed Benelli M2 with a decent amount of work done to it specific for 3 Gun. He can tell you all about it. I want to shoot in He Man or Heavy Metal using my FAL, 1911 and 590. But if that is what you have, then rock what you got. And by all means have fun.
Justin
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CMP, before you run out and buy some new guns to shoot 3Gun, I'd suggest attending at least one local match to see what other people are shooting, or if possible, shoot a match with borrowed gear, or the stuff you've already got.
Also, take a look at the rules at your local matches. There are regional differences, but Gus is correct about the Saiga moving you to Open Division. If you're just shooting for fun and to see how well you can do, and don't care about placement or division, that's perfectly fine.
If you've already got the guns, load up, head to a match, and give it a whirl. As the old saying goes, run what you brung.
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This is what I'm sayin...
But:
Ahhhh, yes, the same gamesmanship that brought us 30" shotgun barrels with tube mags to match on supposed defensive shotguns. I think they should require a prone stage with distant targets at EVERY rifle 3-gun, and we'll see how popular those 40+ ers suddenly become.
Justin
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I know this has been explained to you before, but perhaps it wasn't presented simply enough, or you were incapable of using Google to suss the answer out for yourself. God forbid you actually attempt to attend a match.
Tactical Iron and Tactical Scope divisions generally limit shotgun capacity to nine rounds. In 2010, in America, that's a fairly common round capacity for home defense and "social" shotguns with barrel lengths considered acceptable for home defense.
Shotguns that are longer than this, or have a higher capacity, are generally being wielded by Open Class shooters. In some cases, Tactical Iron and Tactical Scope shooters will also have longer shotguns, but capacity is the same. Having the longer tube simply makes the loading regimen easier when one steps up to the line. Not that this is something that most self-appointed internet experts would grasp.
At our Tactical Rifle matches, shots are from 10-425 yards, and prone positions have been built into every single stage that the Match Director or myself have devised. That doesn't change the fact that there are times when 40+ round magazines can be effectively utilized.
Not that I would know, or anything, because it's not like I'm in the habit of designing stages for these matches, attending them, and actually shooting my gear under those field conditions.
On top of this, I've yet to attend a Regional or National-level match in which prone rifle shooting wasn't an integral part of the rifle-centric stages.
Perhaps those who compete in 3Gun have discovered that there are indeed times when one can effectively prone out with these large magazines, or are opting to use them during stages that don't as heavily emphasize the prone position. Perhaps these competitors are actually willing to try out something new, and if it works, stick with it, even if the equipment looks goofy to someone who's never tried the game. Maybe, just maybe, these people aren't the total idiots you seem to think they are.
CMP,
I run both the ACTS comp and 3 gun in Brighton (Livingston Gun Club) and Port Huron (Blue Water Sportsmans Assoc). Rules are different at all three places. ACTS is two gun only, no shotgun and mags with greater than 30 round capacity are not allowed.
Brighton 3 gun allows full shotgun mags or drums if in open division, you can run tactical division if you download the mags to 9 rounds. You'll need to carry at least three mags and four is better. I don't recall that Port Huron makes any distinctions.
Rifle targets are rarely more than 125 yards in our area - we just don't have the space to shoot further. The vast majority of targets are between a couple yards and 60 yards.
Brighton and ACTS are pretty similar in how you negotiate any given stage. Port Huron is different, you shoot far more rounds and many more targets. They use the rifle in more of a DMR role so you tend to shoot reduced targets at distance. Port Huron puts a much greater emphasis on the handgun. ACTS is the most rifle intensive and I'd say that Brighton is the most fun.
I use exactly the weapon set up you describe, though my Saiga is pretty heavily modified (krebs sights, e-tac twister gas puck, gunfixer gas block, magwell, etc).
For any given stage you're best off if you can carry, at minimum, four AR mags, four Beretta mags (six is better if at Port Huron), and four Saiga mags. A really good holster for your sidearm, with absolute retention that you can draw out of fast is worth it's weight in gold.
I run both the ACTS comp and 3 gun in Brighton (Livingston Gun Club) and Port Huron (Blue Water Sportsmans Assoc). Rules are different at all three places. ACTS is two gun only, no shotgun and mags with greater than 30 round capacity are not allowed.
Brighton 3 gun allows full shotgun mags or drums if in open division, you can run tactical division if you download the mags to 9 rounds. You'll need to carry at least three mags and four is better. I don't recall that Port Huron makes any distinctions.
Rifle targets are rarely more than 125 yards in our area - we just don't have the space to shoot further. The vast majority of targets are between a couple yards and 60 yards.
Brighton and ACTS are pretty similar in how you negotiate any given stage. Port Huron is different, you shoot far more rounds and many more targets. They use the rifle in more of a DMR role so you tend to shoot reduced targets at distance. Port Huron puts a much greater emphasis on the handgun. ACTS is the most rifle intensive and I'd say that Brighton is the most fun.
I use exactly the weapon set up you describe, though my Saiga is pretty heavily modified (krebs sights, e-tac twister gas puck, gunfixer gas block, magwell, etc).
For any given stage you're best off if you can carry, at minimum, four AR mags, four Beretta mags (six is better if at Port Huron), and four Saiga mags. A really good holster for your sidearm, with absolute retention that you can draw out of fast is worth it's weight in gold.
Zak Smith
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Who is "they" - you? USPSA? One of the many regional 3-Gun/practical shooting organizations around the country and world?
Prescriptive statements such as yours miss the point that it is the match directors' and stage designers' job to challenge the shooter's versatility - and his equipment's versatility - as well as technical skill, while taking advantage of the assets he has available such as geography, range facilities, RO's, target, resources, etc.
Here's a few examples how I try to keep competitors "honest" with their rifles at my matches:
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rcmodel
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Same here.
I would rather have two 20 round mags then one 40 round for any day, place, or use.
Even a 30 round sticks down too far a lot of times.
rc
I would rather have two 20 round mags then one 40 round for any day, place, or use.
Even a 30 round sticks down too far a lot of times.
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