Any info on Phoenix Arms?

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whm1974

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Ok I had a friend ask me about Phoenix Arms handguns. I don't know if he seen an AD or somebody has one for sale. But he did ask me how much they were and if I knew anything abou them.

Other then handling a HP22 at a gun show last year I don't much about them. I suppose they would make cheap plinking gun, but...

Anyone have one?

-Bill
 
My best friend and I each bought a Phoenix for about $100 a few years back. They aren't top notch, but they are quite adequate, esp for the price range. I'd consider them much better quality than Lorcins or Jennings.
 
Thanks. How hard is it to pull the slide back? I don't remember if it was.

-Bill
 
I think they are a great gun for the money. I have the plated one with 2 barrels. The slide is easy to operate. poppy
 
The slide is easy to operate

Thanks. I have a hard time pulling the slide on my S&W Model 22A, and I expect this would be true for most .22 autos.

How well does the HP22 hold up? I have ~3000 rnds(a guess) or more though my Smith and it was used.

-Bill
 
hp-22

I wore one out after about 10,000 rds. although it was replaced by Phoenix. They are guaranteed for life, and they made it right!
 
I would have my Smith for a year this Feb. But 10,000 rnds doesn't sound bad for a cheap handgun.

-Bill
 
I guess I'll send mine in, again. The recoil springs are crap. They get mushy and quit functioning after a while. I've been through five springs in maybe a thousand rounds.

I first bought the gun, I sorta liked it. It shot well, fairly accurate, and I like the exposed hammer. I carried it afield when fishing or knocking about on my place. I got the four inch barrel which is easier to sight and helped shrink the groups.

I got one right after they came out. The first slide cracked in half on the left side, Phoenix arms replaced the slide with a new one that was beefed up in the area where the first one cracked, a redesign. But, those recoil springs drive me NUTS! They're cheap POSs! They really need a better design on that spring, pops out when you try to assemble the barrel, just a general PITA. All in all, I'd not have bought the thing if I'd known about the recoil spring problem. It did shoot amazingly well for a while, though. It was quite accurate and feed and ejection were pretty much flawless, unusual for a .22 of its size. And, if a round failed to fire, just cock the hammer and hit it again. It would usually go the second time. The gun didn't have a problem with light hammer strikes, but old .22 ammo sometimes gets a little cranky about going off. I'm not the type that just throws it away and buys a new carton.
 
I had one. Slide is easy to rack. Good little plinker. Mine was fairly reliable after the first couple boxes. Seemed like I had to keep it clean though. I thought it was hard to reassemble. My rear sight leaf fell out, and after that I lost interest and sold it. But I sold it for 100 bucks and only paid 20 + a tasco scope at a pawn shop for it. I would rather have an Astra, Daewoo, some other small .22 if I felt the need.
 
I don't know if he wants the .22 or the .25, or just asking about the name. If it's the .22 I'll advise him to save money on something nicer, That said I almost brought one late '04.

I had friends who have old Ruger MK IIs's given to them by thier (grand)fathers that never had a part replace, and these were shot alot.

Personally I rather spend the extra money on something that will last my lifetime. However not everyone has $300 to $500 to spend.

-Bill
 
whm1974 said:
I don't know if he wants the .22 or the .25, or just asking about the name. If it's the .22 I'll advise him to save money on something nicer, That said I almost brought one late '04.

I had friends who have old Ruger MK IIs's given to them by thier (grand)fathers that never had a part replace, and these were shot alot.

Personally I rather spend the extra money on something that will last my lifetime. However not everyone has $300 to $500 to spend.

-Bill

I agree, save a little more and buy something better. Even for the money, the hassle with the cheezy recoil spring design has been a pain. I just ordered three more springs. At least they're cheap from Gun Parts Inc. I'm going to try to get this thing going again. It did shoot quite well, rather impressive for the money if it'll stay shooting. It did feed and extract reliably.

The thing I really like about it is the accuracy the thing has no bigger than it is. With the 3" barrel in place, it'll shoot sub 3" 25 yard groups which to me means it's a viable pocket sized outdoor .22! It fits a back pocket yet it has serious small game accuracy for rabbits and such. It's a great gun for a tacklebox or just knock around gun, IF IT WORKS. Mine didn't mess up the first recoil spring for a while. Hopefully, I'll get a decent one installed and it'll hold up now.

I can install that 4" barrel I bought and get sub 2" groups with the thing. That's pretty darned amazing to me. I don't quite understand how it could be so accurate because the friggin' barrel flops around, wiggles when it's installed. It defies logic to me for it to shoot so well. The barrels are easy to change out, just don't let that friggin' recoil spring pop out. I wouldn't trust my life to this little POS, but as an outdoor hunter/plinker it's a pretty viable little cheap gun. I didn't give but about 70 bucks for it, but spent 20 something on the extra barrel. I really used it a lot in my outdoor goofing around when I had it going cause it was so friggin' handy to carry in a pocket. You can't carry a kit gun or Ruger or something quite so handily. And, I got mine with 11 round mags before the magazine ban.
 
Well it turns out that we have a mutral friend of ours that has the HP-25. So he is apperaly thinking about getting this model.

-Bill
 
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