Any of you see "street prices" on the new mossberg shockwave n AOW 's they announces at shot?

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I am really wanting the shockwave and will buy if its sub 400 street and if the street prices on the AOW's are reasonable- not the 900 the suggested retail shows I will want one of those two :) The shockwave will movce to bedside relatively quickly- I used to keep a pachmeyer grip on my remington 870 but it is stocked but I did like those :)
 
I paid about $515 for my AOW 5901A1 a few years ago, that's with shipping, transfer, and stamp. Hopefully the non-AOWs will be found for under $500 but I'm doubtful they'll be under $400. I could also be very wrong, hopefully so, I'd like to pick one up as well.
I must have gotten extremely lucky in finding my 870P AOW, I paid just over half what is listed above, just last year.
 
Since when did a SBS not come under NFA control. How is this gun being received by the many states. Why not 10 or 12 inches as long as overall
length is legal. If this gun is for sale in your LGS that means it's legal ?
 
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Since when did a SBS not come under NFA control. How is this gun being received by the many states. Why not 10 or 12 inches as long as overall
length is legal. If this gun is for sale in your LGS that means it's legal ?

Google "Mossberg Shockwave", it will answer all your questions.
 
lilguy said:
Since when did a SBS not come under NFA control. How is this gun being received by the many states. Why not 10 or 12 inches as long as overall
length is legal. If this gun is for sale in your LGS that means it's legal ?
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Because the legal definition of a shotgun includes the feature that it has been designed or redesigned to fire from the shoulder. Since this product was created brand new being designed not to fire from the shoulder (and you can't put a stock on it after the fact because that would be redesigning it) it is not classified as a shotgun. Maintaining an overall length of 26" keeps it from being classified as an Any Other Weapon, the 14" barrel coupled with the unique pistol grip that extends out further than most allows them to shave off 4" from the usual minimum but that's about it.
 
Hold on. IS Mossberg selling an AOW version of this?

The Raptor version of the 500 with the Shockwave Technologies grip that was announced at SHOT is NOT an NFA item. This thread may be in the wrong place.
 
Sam1911 said:
Hold on. IS Mossberg selling an AOW version of this?

The Raptor version of the 500 with the Shockwave Technologies grip that was announced at SHOT is NOT an NFA item. This thread may be in the wrong place.
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He was referring to Mossberg's new AOW line and also their announced non-nfa 14" barrel that they themselves are selling (as opposed to 802 traders that was making them 'custom').
Like he said the price on the AOW versions is pretty steep especially compared to their non-nfa shorter shotgun that is less than half the price.
 
Ok, so then this thread ISN'T about the 14" barreled Raptor at all, so all the links to those don't help answer the question of what the AOW version will cost.
 
The op appears to have combined the two at the beginning I believe. I'm concerned if state laws could conflict with Mossberg/BATFE decision that this is a "firearm", smooth bore pistol.
I was offered the chance to purchase a Street Sweeper years back and passed due to cost at the time. Within a year or so notices were posted at LGSs that they had been reclassified as an NFA item. This seems to be an item that walks that same tightrope. That's why I'm here asking, Illinois is not an NFA friendly state except for SBRs under cover of a C+R lic holder.
 
I'm concerned if state laws could conflict with Mossberg/BATFE decision that this is a "firearm", smooth bore pistol.
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The ATF's declaration here is that this is an Other Firearm. Not a smooth bore pistol.

A shotshell-firing smooth bore pistol would be an "Any Other Firearm" which is a classification of NFA weapon. Two similar sounding things which sometimes are somewhat similar to each other. But are different in important ways.

As to the question of state laws, surely state laws can be more strict than BATFE interpretations of federal law. In Michigan, for example, ANY firearm under 30" overall is considered a pistol and subject to state handgun laws, as well as all applicable federal laws. Not many states have anything on the books which would work like that, but it is important to know your state laws.

Of course, you're either going to be buying this at an FFL, or you're going to be transferring one from an out-of-state source at an FFL, and those guys WILL know your state's laws very well so they'll steer you in the right direction.
 
Sam1911 said:
The ATF's declaration here is that this is an Other Firearm. Not a smooth bore pistol.

A shotshell-firing smooth bore pistol would be an "Any Other Firearm" which is a classification of NFA weapon. Two similar sounding things which sometimes are somewhat similar to each other. But are different in important ways.
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Quick correction: It's "Any Other Weapon", or "AOW".

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/firear...irearms-national-firearms-act-definitions-any

It's a minor distinction, I know, but that one word might make it easier for people to distinguish a Title 1 "other firearm" from a restricted Title 2 "any other weapon".
 
It appears both Sirearms and Mossberg are using Shockwave Technologies' Raptor Grip. I would have thought Mossberg would have just used a design of their own but apparently not.

Mike
 
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