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Anybody Else Interested in a .44 Caliber Full Wadcutter Bullet?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by RidgwayCO, Sep 15, 2009.

  1. RidgwayCO

    RidgwayCO Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking a full wadcutter bullet sized .430" with a BHN around 12 or less would be a big seller. Very nice for target shooting in the .44 Special and Magnum, and maybe even for self defense. Am I alone in my confusion, or are there others who would also be interested? I don't cast bullets myself, so I'd need Missouri Bullets (hint, hint) or some other caster to produce them.

    I've only seen .44 cal full wadcutter bullets at a few places (Gardner's Cache who never seem willing to let customers actually order them, and Penn Bullets which is developing a reputation for long, unresponsive waits).

    If the .38 caliber can have a full wadcutter bullet, why not the .44?

    MMCSRET Well-Known Member

    I have an Ideal mold for a 180 gr. full wadcutter style bullet. Great bullet and I like them soft, so I cast 50/50 ww/pb and load in 44 special cases.
    Mold # 429348
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2009
  3. loadedround

    loadedround Well-Known Member

    A full wadcutter bullet was desgned to use as a "midrange" load useful up to 50 yards for bullseye shooting . Velocity drops off rapidly past this 50 yards and will become very inaccurate due to this loss. It would be a very poor bullet choice for anything with the exception of target shooting or light plinking. With all the older 44 specials and the newer 44 mags around, someone would have marketed by now a full wadcutter in 44 if it would work. JMHO!
  4. FROGO207

    FROGO207 Well-Known Member

    I personally find that the swc is easier to stuff into the chamber BUT when going for bullseye scoring a wadcutter will most likely gain some points when used. Nice round hole, no edges to guess about = better score!!
  5. Jim Watson

    Jim Watson Well-Known Member

    At one time Lee made a 208 grain .44 wadcutter mould. I don't know if they still do.
    Some of the first bullets I ever cast for myself. I soon decided I'd rather buy them and got by with SWCs.
  6. joneb

    joneb Well-Known Member

  7. Randy1911

    Randy1911 Well-Known Member

    I would be interested in one if it was a little bit heavier, say 200 gr.
  8. RidgwayCO

    RidgwayCO Well-Known Member

    Yep, 200gr or so. That's what I'm thinking.
  9. chriske

    chriske Well-Known Member

    Haendler & Natermann makes very nice hollow-based, plated, full wadcutters in .430 for use in .44 Spl and light .44 Mag loads
    I load them in .44 Spl brass (COL 30,5 mm) over either 4.0 - 4.3 Gr of VihtaVuori N320 or 5.2 - 5.5 Gr of VihtaVuori N340.
    Extremely high quality products, H&N !.
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2009
  10. chriske

    chriske Well-Known Member

    Oh yes : the weight is 220 Gr
  11. chriske

    chriske Well-Known Member

  12. Walkalong

    Walkalong Moderator


    Yep, and they shoot great. :)

    I don't know if they still make this mold either.
  13. gwalchmai

    gwalchmai Well-Known Member

    I just got a thousand of those 180gr WCs from Jim Gardner last week. There's a good reason they're so hard to get. He has to hand cast them from a 2-cavity mold, and I suspect he loses money on 'em. He was nice enough to make me up a batch, though, and they're well worth the wait.
  14. bluetopper

    bluetopper Well-Known Member

    I'd really like to have some but they would have to equal the great price I'm paying for 240gr SWC I'm currently buying at $60 per 1k.

    I have turned the SWC around backwards and shot them that way, seated with just the bevel sticking out.
  15. Ratshooter

    Ratshooter Well-Known Member

    Parasite you and I think alike. I loaded some 240s backwards also. I didn't think they were that accurate.

    I for one wish that Lee would make a 220-230gr tumble lube WC bullet. I have shot thousands of their 148gr 38 WC bullets. It doesn't bother me one iota if the performance starts falling off after 50 yards.

    I love the way these flat faced bullets slap a target board or smash a tin can. they just shove the crap out of whatever they hit.

    I load the 148 Lee WC bullets in 38 cases with about a quarter inch sticking out of the case. They feed just fine in mt Marlin 357. I would have no problem using one of these on a close range whitetail.
  16. Ratshooter

    Ratshooter Well-Known Member

    I forgot to add that so far as I know Lee doesn't offer the WC mold anymore. Maybe its time to bombard them with e-mails and phone calls requesting a run of these molds.
  17. For those that are interested the .44 185 gr Wadcutter just went into a production run today and those can ship out fairly quick. I don't run them that often but I have enough current orders to have schedulded a run. Just an FYI.
  18. jjohnson

    jjohnson Well-Known Member


    I'd take WCs in anything around 200 grains. The 180s would be fine for shooting my CA Bulldog - it's just plain RUDE at the range. I do more shooting at the range than anything else these days.
  19. Another thing to bear in mind when loading these is that they seat deep taking up as much space in the case as any standard 200 g.r bullet, so use 200 gr. load data to stay safe. We just ran 53,000 of them and about 32,000 are spoken for already so that leaves about 20,000 available on a first come first served basis. 2500 can be packed into a 70 lb. flat rate box. Free shipping on orders of 2500 or more.
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2009
  20. Coming up on last call. 11,000 left. Free Ship on 2500 or more.

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