Does anyone know how accuracy is on this one?http://www.impactguns.com/store/DPMS-RFA2-B20.html
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I'm just guessing but i bet the accuracy would be quite good on that one. Stainless steel barrel is supposed to be more accurate (I think), and it is a .223 chamber, and has a free float hand guard set up. Looks plenty accurate to me.
One of the local sporting goods stores sells DPMS and has that same model in their display case. Nice looking rifle for varmints.
One of the local sporting goods stores sells DPMS and has that same model in their display case. Nice looking rifle for varmints.
I love my RRA, however they manufacture there stuff very very tight, so it is not very friendly to modification unless you wanna spend some time trying to loosin stuff up, ive also heard that some people have difficulty mixin RRA uppers and lowers with other company's stuff. On the other hand RRA makes perfectly excellent complete rifles anyway garaunteed to shoot accurate out of the box, so i would say just buy a whole rifle and skip the building so that if you have any issues you can call the manufacturer and theyll fix it right up for ya. my two cents!
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Example: Things I look for
* M4 Feed Ramp Barrel Extension (USGI)
* M4 Feed Ramp Flat Top Receiver
* T-Marked Upper Receivers
* USGI 1/7 Twist Rates
* USGI 5.56 NATO Chambers
* Mil-Spec 11595E - 4150 Grade Barrel Steel (CMV)
* Chrome Lined Bore and Chamber
* Manganese Phosphate Barrel Finish
* Mil-Spec F-Marked Forged Front Sights
* USGI Government Profile Barrels
* HPT (High Pressure Test) Barrels
* MPI (Magnetic Particle Inspected) Barrels
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*Which ever Lowers are on sale at the time are the ones I get..
*LPK's stag/bushmaster are What I use.
Btw, Good luck on your Find!
ISR
* M4 Feed Ramp Barrel Extension (USGI)
* M4 Feed Ramp Flat Top Receiver
* T-Marked Upper Receivers
* USGI 1/7 Twist Rates
* USGI 5.56 NATO Chambers
* Mil-Spec 11595E - 4150 Grade Barrel Steel (CMV)
* Chrome Lined Bore and Chamber
* Manganese Phosphate Barrel Finish
* Mil-Spec F-Marked Forged Front Sights
* USGI Government Profile Barrels
* HPT (High Pressure Test) Barrels
* MPI (Magnetic Particle Inspected) Barrels
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*Which ever Lowers are on sale at the time are the ones I get..
*LPK's stag/bushmaster are What I use.
Btw, Good luck on your Find!
ISR
Hiaboo
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What's the deal between having a ar that's mil-spec or USGI or whatever? I'm not interested in having a near-copy, just a varminter and the such. Would it be better if I had it near mil-spec or match quality?
Part of being mil-spec is that it supposedly guarantees parts interchangeability. Sadly, some companies take some liberties with the definition of mil-spec.
True mil-spec parts are built to a specific quality standard, often undergoing MPI, having specific finishes (anodizing, parkerizing, etc), and having specific dimensions.
A varmint gun could be mil-spec except for the barrel. But, throw in some other non-mil-spec parts such as a trigger, stock, no sights, grip, etc and it won't be very mil-spec.
IMO, a mil-spec lower is the most important part since it is a near-guarantee that all uppers will fit.
True mil-spec parts are built to a specific quality standard, often undergoing MPI, having specific finishes (anodizing, parkerizing, etc), and having specific dimensions.
A varmint gun could be mil-spec except for the barrel. But, throw in some other non-mil-spec parts such as a trigger, stock, no sights, grip, etc and it won't be very mil-spec.
IMO, a mil-spec lower is the most important part since it is a near-guarantee that all uppers will fit.
rc109a
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I think that DPMS is nice. I have a Armalite upper on a DPMS lower. I am more worried about weight. That DPMS is kind of heavy for my tastes, but if your only shooting bench or such it would do nice. You can build them for cheaper and you learn so much more about them. I was a little intimidated at first, but after building my own I have more confidence in my rifle. I think everyone is giving some pretty good advice. The hardest choice is yours!
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Zak Smith
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In the THR Rifle Forum Reading Library thread, tacked at the top of this forum, there is a lot of good info. Including Reload this Page 34 Ways to Cut Corners on Manufacturing an AR15
This thread details specific differences that affect reliability.
This thread details specific differences that affect reliability.
MudPuppy
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That's an awesome thread, Zak.
Ought to be in the terms of service that you have to read that before becoming a member.
Ought to be in the terms of service that you have to read that before becoming a member.
SpeedAKL
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I did an exhaustive search regarding all this before I bought my first AR. I chose a Bushmaster and it has yet to fail on me; granted, I have not been in any combat or torture-test conditions but it runs great so far. Other brands to look at IMO: Armalite, Colt, S&W, RRA, Stag, CMMG, LMT, Sabre Defense, DoubleStar, DPMS. They all build very high-quality firearms. Colt charges a premium (partially for the name IMHO), but their guns are very well-built; only downside is that it can be tough to find the LE/milspec guns. I saw a great deal on Colt LE6920s at a gun show recently, but that was the first time in awhile that I had seen the guns period. Bottom line: go with one of the above-listed brands, and get the one that has the features you want at the best available price. I doubt you'll be disappointed.
George Hill
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SABER DEFENSE is perhaps my favorite.
I digg the thundercat logo.
I digg the thundercat logo.
Hypnogator
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FWIW, I'm going with a CMMG lower and upper receiver, but with a fluted stainless Douglas barrel installed by CLE. Not for $800, though!
rangerruck
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now I will say that olympic has gotten much better, and started staking their gas keys, and not using stamped parts, and would be fine for a range rifle, or plinker, or maybe home defense for about a mag or two. But if you are looking for something to take to a carbine course, or fire more than two mags down the tube fast, or smash into the side of some dudes head after you have spewed a 30 round mag, then you may wanna go for something else.
jpwilly
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TWO DPMS Rifles and they are fantastic shooters!
Dirtypacman
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I also in the boat for a new AR upper - I am hoping to put together something thats is a real accurate shooter.
I have pretty much made my mind up on a Rock River Arms but was hoping to get some suggestions for the configuration as of now I was thinking:
Standard A4 Upper Half; Quad Rail Lightweight Free Float, $160.00 option; Stainless Steel, 1:8, $65.00 option; A2 Front Sight; A2 Flash Hider; With Standard Latch
The quad rail lightweight free float is:
or should I go with : 20 Inch Predator Pursuit Upper Half
I have pretty much made my mind up on a Rock River Arms but was hoping to get some suggestions for the configuration as of now I was thinking:
Standard A4 Upper Half; Quad Rail Lightweight Free Float, $160.00 option; Stainless Steel, 1:8, $65.00 option; A2 Front Sight; A2 Flash Hider; With Standard Latch
The quad rail lightweight free float is:
or should I go with : 20 Inch Predator Pursuit Upper Half
Dirtypacman
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I plan on putting optics on it and making it my target/match shooter.
mollydodger
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Rock River Arms
I have owned a couple and shot numerous brands of these rifles. Dollar for dollar for a rifle that is OUT OF THE BOX accurate, and by this I mean more accurate than the above average shooter can hold to, RRA is tops IMHO. I just opened the box on my third one, a NM A4, and the first shot cut the X at 100 yds. I estimated sight adjustments for the first round. The next nine rounds were all grouped under one inch with one flyer ending up at 3 oclock and about two and a half inches of dead center.. I was using milsurp ammo and the day was horrible for shooting with a severe cross wind blowing left to right with up to 30 MPH gusts. I am an average shooter. I believe their claims of sub MOA accuracy OUT OF THE BOX are very achievable for the average Joe.
I have owned a couple and shot numerous brands of these rifles. Dollar for dollar for a rifle that is OUT OF THE BOX accurate, and by this I mean more accurate than the above average shooter can hold to, RRA is tops IMHO. I just opened the box on my third one, a NM A4, and the first shot cut the X at 100 yds. I estimated sight adjustments for the first round. The next nine rounds were all grouped under one inch with one flyer ending up at 3 oclock and about two and a half inches of dead center.. I was using milsurp ammo and the day was horrible for shooting with a severe cross wind blowing left to right with up to 30 MPH gusts. I am an average shooter. I believe their claims of sub MOA accuracy OUT OF THE BOX are very achievable for the average Joe.
sgb
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Build it yourself.
Armalite heavy Barrel W/Vortec
Fulton armory NM Free float forearm
YHM gas block
Harris Bipod
RRA flat top upper
Colt Bolt Carrier Assembly
Armalite 30mm mount
Super Sniper 16X
Superior Arms lower
Ergo pistol Grip & Armalite A2 Stock
RRA NM lower parts kit, worked by Bill Springfield to 2.5lb pull.
Armalite heavy Barrel W/Vortec
Fulton armory NM Free float forearm
YHM gas block
Harris Bipod
RRA flat top upper
Colt Bolt Carrier Assembly
Armalite 30mm mount
Super Sniper 16X
Superior Arms lower
Ergo pistol Grip & Armalite A2 Stock
RRA NM lower parts kit, worked by Bill Springfield to 2.5lb pull.
riflenut
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info on olympic
My only ar-15 is a basic setup, I love it!! Ive got the vietnam era stock and rear sites came with 30 round clip and hard shell case.My ar is set up for 5.56nato round or 223. and a 16" barrel. I have had it for about a year now no jam ups on wolf ammo or remmington ,winchester. I purchased mine for 649.00 new.
My only ar-15 is a basic setup, I love it!! Ive got the vietnam era stock and rear sites came with 30 round clip and hard shell case.My ar is set up for 5.56nato round or 223. and a 16" barrel. I have had it for about a year now no jam ups on wolf ammo or remmington ,winchester. I purchased mine for 649.00 new.
Wolfman_556
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I have a 20" HBAR 1/9 A3 Bushmaster.
3,000+ rounds through it with no malfunctions of any kind. Very accurate.
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One accessory I can highly recommend to all AR owners or soon-to-be AR owners, are the excellent PMAG's made by Magpul. These things are tough, easy to load, and feed super-slick.
They're only a few $ more than USGI mags, and IMO worth every penny.
3,000+ rounds through it with no malfunctions of any kind. Very accurate.
One accessory I can highly recommend to all AR owners or soon-to-be AR owners, are the excellent PMAG's made by Magpul. These things are tough, easy to load, and feed super-slick.
They're only a few $ more than USGI mags, and IMO worth every penny.
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