ar-15 trigger comparisons

[MJR007]

Send the trigger that comes in your parts kit to

http://www.triggerwork.net/ar15s.html

with $50. It is a huge improvement. I spent $200 on my Timney and there is little diffence.

The Timney is on a 25wssm. I am not sure how it will last over time. All is still well with the unlucky 13th box of bullets just opened up. Time will tell.

The Ar market is filled with holes to put money into. Please try Bill first and save some money for reloading reading material.

Good luck.

 

[Howard Roark]

Taliv, Thanks for the report. I heard that the first stage was rough.

I didn't make it to Perry due to work. First year I've missed since 2004.

With all the shenanigans with the new CMP loading procedures I'm not all that broken up about it. I got two brand new Colt mags to use only for SR and in three matches they missfed the first round twice. The only alibi I ever had at Perry in 8 trips was due to a target malfunction and not my fault. Until someone comes to their senses I'll stick to MR and NRA matches.

I predict much confusion, many many alibi strings and long days on the range this year.

Good Luck.

 

[taliv]

Np Howard

I was really looking forward to some new blood. Maybe it'll get better. Hard to shake first impressions though

yeah squadded prac didn't finish til 7 something today!
And they didn't even shoot alibis
(freakin eagles and boats and comm probs)

 

[SwampWolf]

Conversely, I have heard that the Rock River two stage is not too durable,

Curious. Can you tell us where you "heard" this?

 

[rbernie]

I have used a half-dozen Jards in various builds, and I think highly of them. None of these rifles are high-usage (each sees less than 1000 rounds per year, and more likely than not less than 500) but for hunting use they have been solid.

 

[nhm16]

Curious. Can you tell us where you "heard" this?

Anecdotally, on ARFCOM and m4carbine.net... I am not a high volume shooter, so I'm not too worried about mine, which was came tuned from White Oak, but I definitely remember reading numerous times about the RRA trigger losing the first stage in high-round count situations, when I was researching triggers. Here's a thread on calguns.net with some more information.

 

[c5_nc]

You can get "triggerworks.net" job by Bill Springfield for $35 for 4 lb pull. If you have a varmint/target shooting AR and don't really use it as a carbine he offers a $50 job. After that I would probably look at the Jards.

 

[winston smith]

It is a fixed 3.5lb pull trigger as far as I can tell, though their web page seems to imply that it is adjustable. Maybe that's what bugs me ... their web page is long on BS, short on facts.

And "word of mouth"

Gun people are almost pre-literate. These websites are done by Java-disabled kids who can't communicate with anyone, esp. girls. Facts and rumors are passed on by the Telephone game, and whatever goes in, its garbage out. I once made left-hand safties for the 10-22; adverising and instructions were the killers. It's all about communications and that is not our strong point.

The AR Gold's big feature is that it is SAFE. I use a JP on my primary, and will eventually replace it with a Gold. All these triggers are light pulls, and that's about it; they don't work magic, just the basic thing of reducing pull weight.

 

[taliv]

The AR Gold's big feature is that it is SAFE. I use a JP on my primary, and will eventually replace it with a Gold. All these triggers are light pulls, and that's about it; they don't work magic, just the basic thing of reducing pull weight.

not sure what "all these" triggers you're referring to. The primary features of most of the top shelf triggers (JP, geissele, etc) are that they're crisp and clean without that "dragging across gravel" feel. They aren't light or 'hair' triggers. They certainly are not unsafe.

 

[SwampWolf]

Curious. Can you tell us where you "heard" this?

Anecdotally, on ARFCOM and m4carbine.net... I am not a high volume shooter, so I'm not too worried about mine, which was came tuned from White Oak, but I definitely remember reading numerous times about the RRA trigger losing the first stage in high-round count situations, when I was researching triggers.

The reason I asked the question is because I am a "high volume" shooter (I compete regularly in Service Rifle matches using a RRA National Match 2-stage trigger and know others that do) and I've never heard about nor have I encountered any sort of failure with the RRA unit. I'm not saying it doesn't happen nor that durability issues aren't a problem, just that it certainly hasn't been my experience.

 

[taliv]

i've heard about lots of RRA trigger failures, seen 1

(though, I have one with over 15,000 rnds on it and no issues... doesn't mean they're all good or all bad)