Are You Serious, a baynotte on a Handgun??

[Sam]

2RCO,
the Bayonette is every bit as effective now as it was 400 years ago, maybe a bit more so. Little twerps these days see too many easy shoots on TV. They can't relate, I can assure you the bayonettes scares the living $#!t out of them. It works

Sam

 

[2RCO]

Sam,
I didn't say they were useless! If I was in Battle you can bet I would have one affixed. But they are ase useful on a pistol as they are on a rifle when you think about it.

 

[Vern Humphrey]

"Aw right, you birds lissen up for tonight's sentry duty assignments! Schmedlap, you've got the coffee grinder on your buttstock so you take the graveyard shift again!"

 

[dairycreek]

How would one wear it IWB? Very carefully

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I don't think we've even put bayonets on rifles for 30 years or more.

 

[Acera]

The Lone Haranguer you are incorrect. Bayonets are not only issued they are a part of basic training. It was not that long ago that I even was able to wear the Bayonet bar under my Expert medal. We did not get them issued often, but waiting in line to pick up our weapons in 91, we got them-- and they were brand new. Read up on some of the fighting that happened in the Faulklands war, the Brits had a special affection for their use.

 

[Geronimo45]

I don't think we've even put bayonets on rifles for 30 years or more.

The Argyll's have:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004223179,00.html

Picture twenty angry people talking like Sean Connery and running at you with a bayonet. Frightening, to say the least.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

I would buy a bayonet if it fit the rails on anything I own since it would cheese off the libe

However, the CZ doesn't fit a standard rail so I'll pass.

BTW, I think it was serious in that entry teams there wanted it to discourage people from grabbing their weapons. Not sure about the truth of it though.

 

[IA_farmboy]

I can see the usefulness of a bayonet on a handgun, the relics shown in this thread are good examples of a bayonet done right. The snap-on bayonet on the CZ does not look useful at all. it does not look very balanced, seems to be too small to do much damage, and with the light on there with it it means one must choose between seeing or stabbing the opponent.

When I saw the thread title I had my own idea of what a bayonet on a handgun would look like and the CZ was not even close to what I pictured.

In basic training I had to do bayonet training, which was almost four years ago. There was quite the debate over medals. Some sergeants didn't like that everyone got the highest rating on bayonet training. I guess the standards were pretty low and those that did poorly got the highest rating.

The RSO for the bayonet course gave a little speech about the last US Army bayonet battle and the man that lead the attack. It was in Vietnam if I recall correctly.

 

[gaudio5]

i like the lack of blood grooves then again if it gets stuck you can awalys shoot them off

 

[Zen21Tao]

 

[wes]

I just saw this in the recent issue of a gun rag I bought for a day spent
wasted in several airports.
http://www.americanhandgunner.com/FTR0907.html
As far as the mexican carry issue goes....I suppose you wouldn't have to scratch itches with your hand anymore.

 

[mbott]

Ohen Cepel said:

However, the CZ doesn't fit a standard rail so I'll pass.

??? Any thing that will fit the Picatinny rail will fit on the SP-01 rail. The only non-standard rail on a CZ is the one found on the CZ 100.

--
Mike

 

[[email protected]]

Do you think ads like this make CZ look trashy and cheap? At the very least, it make them look like Mall Ninja suppliers.

I always respected CZ but this Euro trash ad looks like crap to me.

 

[Everette]

I don't know how many of you gentleman are currently or ever have been part of a Specialized Apprehension Team, SWAT, SF, etc., but my organization several years ago assisted the Navy Seals in the development of an AFB (alternative force block) to be used on our jointly shared Sig 226s in CQC. CZs iteration of the AFB along with an attachable blade is a reasonable and potentially excellent option for those whom operate in environments where the opposition often charges directly into you with the sole intent of killing you and everything around you.
I highly suggest those whom profess a genuine interest in firearms and their use, investigate what real world operators are doing or have done before making jokes about the "novelty" about a particualr weapon or device. Just my humble .02.

 

[PPGMD]

At the very least, it make them look like Mall Ninja suppliers.

To me it looks like they developed a system that their local military wanted, and then offered it for civilian sales. It's like a silencer do civilians really need a silencer? No, but it's something fun to put on the gun every once in a while, or something used when their is a specific need.

 

[Zen21Tao]

Do you think ads like this make CZ look trashy and cheap? At the very least, it make them look like Mall Ninja suppliers.

I hate to say it, but in todays day and age the "mall ninja" market is extremely big. Just go to an outdoor rang and look at the sheer number of wearing all commo, drop leg holsters w/polymer guns, and have all the tactical goodies on their rifles and are just shooting paper at 25-50 yards. Don't get me wrong, I know a lot of people participate in defensive carbine matches and type shooting, but there are just as many there dressed that way that don't.

In fact, the last time I was at the outdoor range I always do to, I saw someone in black BDUs, jump boots, a Glock in a drop leg holster (blackhawk I believe), holding an M4A3 with 3 point sling, aim point scope, surefire flashlight w/laser, wearing sun glasses, a SWAT t-shirt and a badge hanging from his neck. I took a closer look at the badge when walking by to see what department he was with, and it was a CCW badge. I'm sure this guy would have loved to have a bayonet on his pistol.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

You'd be the envy of all the mall "operators" when you cut into your breakfast cinnabon with your pistol!

 

[PPGMD]

Zen21Tao,

Just because a person enjoys Tacticool weapons doesn't mean that they dress up as an idiot. I got a really nice SBR AR, I have a tactical sling, molle vest and all that jazz. Do I wear that to the range for the average range session? Of course not, but I have them for when I goto a class like Gunsite.

I see people complaining about tacticool items, and guns, yet I seem them in Daytona at bike week in Hell's Angels type clothing, they don't seem to mind looking like a poser when it's them doing it.

People need to get off their high horse/hog and learn that their are different strokes for different folks. One week I may be at the range with a SBR AR, suppressor, and my USP suppressed, and the next I may be there with a 1911, CZ USPSA production gun, or a 22LR.

 

[Monkeybear]

Remember that there is a huge market for CZ in the rest of the world. If I were a member of a security force in a smaller, poorer country having to clear a building and without the budget to afford MP5s or whatnot I would want one of those too. If I wanted to keep people from trying to jump me and wrestle my gun from me I would want one. If I were using a CZ with a rail for HD I would want one too. Just don't fall on it.

 

[M249MachineGun]

It would be great in the fight against the living dead.

http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/Blade2
Scroll about halfway down.

 

[SouthpawShootr]

Let's not turn this into a zombie thread.

If I wanted to keep people from trying to jump me and wrestle my gun from me I would want one. If I were using a CZ with a rail for HD I would want one too. Just don't fall on it.

They probably need to put some sort of sling swivel on it also. This gun is heavy. But I wanted a heavy 9mm pistol for range use only. It was either this or a Para P18. My dad was toying with mine today and remarked that the gun probably won't move under recoil no matter how loose your grip is.

 

[IA_farmboy]

t would be great in the fight against the living dead.

http://www.longmountain.com/movieguns/Blade2
Scroll about halfway down.

That's almost exactly what I imagined when I heard "bayonet on a pistol". That looks very useful and very deadly.

 

[Timthinker]

Some years ago, I saw a color photograph of a World War One Webley revolver fitted with a Pritchard bayonet. Notsurprisingly, this idea failed to gain acceptance. I suppose that particular idea was born out of the desperation of trench warfare in which both sides raided one another's trenches on intelligence missions. Rather than relying on a pistol bayonet, a much better idea, in my estimation, would be to have a semi-auto pistol with an extra large magazine capacity. This situation actually occured because Luger made a "snail drum" magazine for some of their pistols during that war.


Timthinker

 

[Zen21Tao]

Zen21Tao,

Just because a person enjoys Tacticool weapons doesn't mean that they dress up as an idiot. I got a really nice SBR AR, I have a tactical sling, molle vest and all that jazz. Do I wear that to the range for the average range session? Of course not, but I have them for when I goto a class like Gunsite.

If you noticed, my post was about people that dress up like they are kicking down the doors on a MOUT course when they are simply at the range for an average range session of shooting paper targets at 25-50 yards. You say you don't do that, then you wouldn't fall into that category.

I see our Florida Defensive Carbine guys out dressed like that for their games all the time. They too have a practical reason to be "tacted out." A mall ninja is someone that dresses tacticool "for no practical reason." This was the case with they guy I was talking about.