"ATF rids Univ. of ninja threat"

[doggscube]

http://www.randb.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/04/12/443c71ed40b94

Nice guys. I guess it's now the BATFENM - "ninja masks" added.

-Jeff

 

[wheelgunslinger]

That's just wrong. "From a federal standpoint"?
Shouldn't these guys be looking for speakeasys or illegal distilleries? Oh, wait, their mission and raison d'etre was decriminalized. I guess that now, without moonshine runners to chase, they have to find the crime where they can.
Wait, there was no crime committed.
Again, every single time I speak to a national representative from my state, I bring up the idea of disbanding the BATFENM.

Stopping a student who was running across campus with a mask on is ridiculous and draconian. This kind of law enforcement is ridiculous, especially since he didn't and wasn't breaking any laws. And, as professional LEA's, they should've known that before they acted.
"He looked suspicious." - What, like an enemy of the people, Comrade?

 

[grimjaw]

Because everyone knows that the majority of criminals and terrorists today use masks, likes ones used on 9/11, oh wait. Well those two guys who traveled around DC sniping people, no not them either. OK, the ones used in Iraq, er, no. The ones used in Afghanistan, hrm.

Ridiculous.

jmm

 

[geekWithA.45]

BATFE Delenda Est.

("The BATFE Must Be Destroyed.")

 

[Alex45ACP]

The police state is coming...

 

[MacPelto]

In fact, the last person I saw wearing a ninja mask had a vest on, with big letters that said "POLICE".

Hmmmm...weird,

Mac

 

[Henry Bowman]

“Seeing someone with something across the face, from a federal standpoint — that’s not right,” McLemore said, explaining why agents believed something to be amiss.

So when we see someone wearing tactical black with a balaclava who "claims" to be a federal agent, we know "that's not right."

When bandanas are outlawed, only outlaws and JBTs will have bandanas.

 

[50caliber123]

Where does Ninja fit into Alchol Tobacco Firearms Explosives? How does this fall into the ATF's jurisdiction?

 

[Sergeant Sabre]

“Seeing someone with something across the face, from a federal standpoint — that’s not right,”

Ah, I see now that I read that line. I was looking at it from a local standpoint. That's why it didn't make sense to me before.

 

[riverdog]

"From a federal standpoint"? Sounds like a policy statement. Can I have a link to the Federal statute regarding the wearing of masks/ninja/pirate attire on campus? Let's see, 1st Amendment, free expression. The only thing wrong is too many guys carrying Federal badges, looking for something to do.

 

[Baron Holbach4]

What would happen if the student had been a muslim woman wearing a hijab? "FREEZE!" ???

Chalk it up as another kafkaesque encounter.

"Ahh, Mr. BATF, could you take some weight off your knee pressing against my neck?"

 

[riverdog]

Damn, don't'cha just hate those camera phones

 

[Justin]

Perhaps they can also charge him for failing to pay the tax on manufacturing a ninja mask.

 

[Third_Rail]

Giving them enough power to do this and not be reprimanded?


Okay.... we're not a police state, though.

 

[Master Blaster]

Why wern't the ATF agents asrrested for assault, terroistic threatening, risking a catastrophe, felony endangerment, Illegal tresspass, comission of a felony with a deadly weapon??????

Seriously, the sherriff should have arrested them all.

 

[John Hicks]

I've got an idea: why not relocate all those ATF agents to the southwest and let them enforce existing federal laws defining how foreigners must enter this country. It would give them something to do rather than harass ninjas.

It's either genius or stupid: the two are oft very close.

jh

 

[The Freeholder]

Nothing to see here, Citizens! Move along! Move along!

 

[seeker_two]

A few questions.....

1. What was the ATF doing there in the first place?

2. When did the "T" in ATF become "Textile Enforcement"?

3. Under what enforcement power does the ATF derive the ability to stake out and bust college parties?

4. If ninjas are so great, how did this one get caught by the ATF-Troop?

The ATF-ers were probably jealous that he looked better in tactical black than they did...

 

[The Kidd]

Not to hijack your thread but... When the LEOs jump in to defend these buttheads, can you explain why law enforcement wears the black hoods. 'Cause that just screams "TERRORIST" to me. I know it was the "civilian" wearing the mask this time but I've been wanting to ask. And is really necessary to keep your boot on our face...I mean your knee on that kids neck?

 

[Maxwell]

Nice guys. I guess it's now the BATFENM - "ninja masks" added.

That should be "BATFEMPN".
You forgot the machete and pirate thing already?

 

[Baron Holbach4]

Seriously, the sherriff should have arrested them all.

Has there ever been a time in U.S. history when local or state LEOs arrested federal police? Is this unthinkable? Is it legally possible for a local or state LEO to arrest a federal LEO? Any experts here that can answer this question?

 

[exar]

I sure am glad they stopped that ninja before he had a chance to start chuckin' throwing stars. Those things could put an eye out!

 

[EasternShore]

Can someone explain to me why after the guy is restrained and on the ground (note his hands are bound) an ATF agent needs to have a knee in the back of his neck? Damn I'd love to see that agent charged.

 

[Zero_DgZ]

"Is it legally possible for a local or state LEO to arrest a federal LEO? Any experts here that can answer this question?"

Yes, it is theoretically legally possible. Even Federal agents are not above the (local) law.

 

[Otherguy Overby]

Could someone inform me as to what useful societal function these thugs fill?

Sheesh, reading KABA these days, it seems an awful lot of cops are shooting them selves, each other and most everyone EXCEPT criminals. I guess our PC society has become imuno-suppressed and can no longer generate antibodies for this sickness.