Auugh! My Garand jammed!

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Trebor

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I shot in a Korean War commerative military rifle match Sunday called the "Frozen Chosin." The weather was cold, low to mid '20s, but probably not as cold as the real Chosin Resevoir was back then. We didn't have to march through the snow either. The match was limited to M-1 Garands and M-1 Carbines with the club providing the ammo.

I brought a Winchester Garand I got from the CMP. I hadn't shot it yet but had high hopes for it since it was rearsenaled in the '60s and had a new barrel. The rifle worked flawlessly at first and I was quite happy when it only took me four shots to get it "dailed in" and I started dropping rounds into the 10-ring at 200 yards.

Everything was fine until one string when I went to reload a full clip. I got the clip in, but one of the rounds shifted forward and jammed the gun up tight. The round wouldn't chamber, the clip wouldn't go in or come up, the timer was counting down and I was screwed!

The match director came over and we finally manhandled the round into the chamber. Unfortunately, my time was almost up and the (hypothetical) Red Chinese were almost to our position. I popped up to a kneeling position and blasted out the clip taking only quick sight pictures and to heck with breath control! It wasn't quite as bad as just firing "in the general direction of the enemy," but it wasn't much better. The report of my last round was still in the air when the targets ran down.

Up 'till then, I'd been doing pretty well, for me at least, but I had three misses and several fives and sixes in that last string of 16 shots (two full clips), which dragged my score down a bit.

Turns out the problem probably wasn't the gun, but was probably the ammo. We had to load the clips from loose rounds and I probably had one cartridge in that clip that wasn't fully seated and was too high. I'm told that can cause the type of problem I had. I loaned the rifle to two other shooters that day after I used it, and neither one of them had any problems. (They probably paid closer attention to loading their clips)

If you've seen "Band of Brothers," the jam was almost exactly like the one one of the troopers had in the battle outside Armhem.

All in all, I had a good time and it just further reinforces the respect I have for the men who had to fight in that bitter cold winter 50 years ago. A got a little stressed in the match, and I was only facing paper bulls. I can only imagine what it like to face hordes of shouting Red Chinese.
 
My 43 SA has a number of pin-pricks on both sides of the rear stock, from GI's aligning the bullet noses by tapping them there, just before en-bloc insertion.

I think some guys tapped them against their helmets, too.
 
trebor,

It's a very common thing on USGI Garands to find either bullet nose marks or clip base impressions where loaded clips were slammed into the buttstock to seat an errant cartridge.

Swampy

Garands forever
 
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Swampy is right ... and the Danish seem to have learned that trick pretty well too ... judging from Danish M1's I have seen.

Lock and load,

/Rusty
 
The Danes I've seen tend to show more bullet nose impacts....

On the USGI rifles I've seen more clip base impressions....

Guess it's all in what you are taught. :D

Swampy
 
"...low to mid '20s..." What are you going to do if it ever gets cold? Winter shooting means one thing. No grease or oil in the rifle. Use powdered graphite. Anything else will congeal and stop the rifle from working properly. And the clips should be bashed against the butt plate. Not the stock.
 
Granted, there's a whopping big difference between shooting an M1 on the range and in combat, but attempting to push a high round into the clip is a big M1 No-No clearly warned against in the manuals.

The problem is, the clip tension is usually stronger than the bullet crimp, so when the bullet point is pressed against the rifle, it isn't the case that gets pushed back into place, it's the bullet that gets pushed into the case.

Pushing a bullet into the case can raise pressure, cause feeding problems, and cause accuracy problems.

So, although in a real combat situation this might be acceptable, doing so on the range is NOT recommended.

To eliminate high round problems, just take care when loading clips.

Read the manuals, no pushing rounds in.
 
dfarris wrote:

Read the manuals, no pushing rounds in.

Maybe that's why the US seem to show more clip base impressions and the Danes more bullet tip impressions.....

The Danes don't read English. :D

Swampy

Garands forever
 
jam

I've been shooting a Garand off & on for years, have never experienced what you did but its good to know. Just a little perspective, if you will watch Vietnam action photos closely you will sometimes see GIs doing the same thing with their magazines, usually when doing a combat assault while in a Huey, they tapped them either on their helmet or the floor of the helicopter to seat the rounds prior to inserting into M16.

rk
 
And the clips should be bashed against the butt plate. Not the stock.
NOO!!!! Well, no and yes.

I'd heard the stock story, too, and tried it during one RF string when I spotted round #3 too high during my reload.

All I got was a hole in my stock.

Turn the rifle counter-clockwise (for us right-handed folks--righ-brained people are smart enough to translate that!:p ) and rap the bullet noses on the floorplate or whatever we call that metal piece on the bottom.

Worked like a charm.:cool:

The buttplate is too far away for me.:neener:

Going backwards like we do with magazines is an interesting idea. Never seen any such marks, but I'd still do it on the floorplate.
 
I'm sure the problem was caused by my loading of the clips. We usually shoot pre-clipped ammo, but we're pretty much out of it now for range issue. I still have a case or so of pre-clipped CMP ammo at home, but this was range provided ammo.

I do know the "bang the clip on the stock" trick, and I even banged the clips on the ammo-draw table as I loaded them, but I must have missed one or not hit it hard enough. Something to keep in mind for next time.
 
Though GI's obviously used the rifle itself as an instrument to seat protruding cartridges, I'm not about to bang anything against the stock of my finely finished Match Grade M1.

As I'm getting ready to fire a rapid fire string I pick up my loaded clips and look down the line of bullets. If I see one sticking out slightly, I'll hold the clip between thumb and index finger and bang it down onto my shooting mat, base first. Let inertia move the cartridges down to the bottom of the clip. This usually does the trick.

Best to all,
Swampy

Garands forever
 
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