Bad guys with a bullpup

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I don't know what kind of rifle this is in the pic, but thats a criminal in the act of holding up a Circle K. The same guys are suspected of shooting up a couple of sheriffs cars and hitting a deputy in the arm last night. The really bad news is they got away.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_9729331

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Police are searching for two armed men who fled on foot following a car chase in which the two men fired numerous gunshots at two Douglas County sheriff's deputies, striking one in the arm, authorities say.
The identities of the shooters, described as white men in their 20s, is not known. The pair abandoned an older Honda on and authorities say they believe they escaped the area on foot.
About 2,400 residents in the area were called this morning and warned to lock their doors and windows, stay in their homes and report any suspicious activity. Several roads were closed while SWAT team members searched
"We have two suspects on foot who are armed," said Lt. Alan Stanton, spokesman for the Douglas County Sheriff's Office. "That poses a high danger to people in that area."
In the afternoon, deputies reopened Highway 105 and Wolfensberger Road near Sedalia and allowed people to return to their homes.
Douglas County investigators said tonight the two suspects were also believed to be linked to a June 11 armed robbery at a Circle K store, at 23 West Wolfensberger Road, at about 3:30 a.m.
In that robbery, two white men in their early 20s, dressed in fatigues, held a store clerk at gun point with a rifle.
Police have released a still surveilance photo of that robbery.
The first suspect in that incident was described as a blond man, about 6 feet, 1 inch tall. The second suspect was described as having light brown hair, about 5 feet 10 inches tall with a black handgun.
Deputies told 9News that both men in the June 11 incidents were described as having slight builds and wore green bandanas over their faces. One of the men had a British accent, authorities told 9News.
In today's incident, deputies received a call of suspicious activity in the Silver Heights subdivision near Castle Rock at 3 a.m., Stanton said.
While two deputies responded in a marked and an unmarked car they got a second call of a burglary in progress, Stanton said. They were told that two men got into a car and were driving away from the burglary.
The deputies spotted a beige Honda and tried to pull it over, but the men fled, driving west on Wolfensberger Road.
The men then fired gunshots , shattering their own back window and striking both of the deputies' cars, injuring the deputy driving the unmarked car, Stanton said. The officers did not shoot at the suspects, he said.
The marked car had bullet holes in the windshield and the roof, and the unmarked car had a hole in the roof.
The injured deputy, whose identity has not been released, was taken to a local hospital where he was treated and released, Stanton said.
The Honda then stopped in a ditch just south of Highway 105 and the men ran into a nearby forest. Officials later found two 5-gallon and two 10-gallon gas tanks in the trunk of the Honda, which had been stolen.
"A couple of bad guys are in the area and (deputies) have no idea where they are at," said Allan Seitz, who has a home near Jackson Creek and was not being allowed to return to his house.
Larry Lewellyn said he also was barred from returning to his house on Oakland Drive this morning.
"Residents should be patient," Lewellyn said. "You have to be concerned about your safety. It's a different kind of society."
Emergency calls were sent out to homes within in a three mile radius of the area where the two men escaped. The calls notified residents that the men were still at large, and believed to be armed.
SWAT officers, deputies and police officers from Colorado Springs and Castle Rock went door to door warning people about the two men, Stanton said.
Highway 105 was closed from Highway 67 in Sedalia to Tomah Road and Wolfensberger Road was closed from Coach Line Road to Highway 105, Stanton said.
 
"Residents should be patient," Lewellyn said. "You have to be concerned about your safety. It's a different kind of society."

You can say that again.

I could be wrong, but I think the two bad guys on the lamb have more to worry about from the good folks from town more than the other way around.
 
Incredibly unlikely that it's that firearm - of the two, the M17S is more available and the QBZ-95 is virtually unheard of because it never made it into the USA (as far as I know), while the M17S was produced here.

That, and it has the M17S' ventilated foreend and carry handle optic mount. ;)
 
No matter what the exact rifle is, bullpups are very distinctive guns. Combined with the dude exposing his haircut like that hopefully somebody will recognize him from either a gun store or range and they'll catch up with him.
 
Are these guys total morons? Risking there life and freedom for a couple hundred bucks?

Some serious lack of judgment.
 
With how they're dressed, and the weapons they've chosen to use, I think it's safe to say these guys aren't doing this for the money.

They're getting a thrill out of playing 'tactical terrorist'.
 
My vote goes to "airsoft."

You'd have to be pretty stupid (and rich - in which case, you probably wouldn't be knocking off Circle Ks) to use a bullpup as a holdup weapon. Expensive, rare and thus easily identifiable...
 
I'm amazed the article didn't mention them wielding "assault rifles" or some other fear mongering nonsense. What is this, mall ninjas gone wild? I guess this is what happens when you mix video games, guns, and a criminal ethic.
 
The Honda then stopped in a ditch just south of Highway 105 and the men ran into a nearby forest. Officials later found two 5-gallon and two 10-gallon gas tanks in the trunk of the Honda, which had been stolen.


So the couple hundred bucks they stole, should almost let them "break even" with the amount of Gas they purchased before the robberies? Maybe they thought the gas prices were "Highway Robbery"? Im here all night folks.
 
About 2,400 residents in the area were called this morning and warned to lock their doors and windows, stay in their homes and report any suspicious activity.

Wouldn't it be appropriate to include a comment about firearms in the warning? Something like:

There is a pair of white males, in their 20s, who have just committed an armed robbery in this area. These men are armed and dangerous. One of the males reportedly has a rifle. You are warned to lock your doors and windows, stay in your homes, and to have ready access to your firearm for self-defense if you own one. Report immediately any suspicious activity you may observe.
 
They didn't necessarily shoot at the officer's car WITH THAT RIFLE.

No, but reading between the lines it's hard to figure how a couple of guys with handguns could hold two sheriff's deputies at bay and manage to escape. They got hits on the LE cars while shooting backwards from a moving vehicle.
 
If the bullets that struck the LEO's cars were handgun, I'd vote airsoft. The pic is blurry but it almost looks like one of those bullpup AK rifles:
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If they did use the rifle in the car they can add "with hearing damage" to the list of characteristics.
 
With how they're dressed, and the weapons they've chosen to use, I think it's safe to say these guys aren't doing this for the money.

They're getting a thrill out of playing 'tactical terrorist'.

A pretty safe bet.

[sarcasm] This must be because of the Heller ruling! The blood is flowing already! If only the case would have went the other way, these kids wouldn't be doing this![/sarcasm]
 
Now that I think about it.... a semblance of 'tactical' clothing (I see what looks like a vest of some sort, gloves, a headlamp...), semi automatic 'assault rifle' with a bullpup layout and a reflex sight... they rob a convenience store, then shoot at police, and it's timed conspicuously close to the Heller ruling.


Well, convenience store robberies obviously didn't pay for their wardrobe. Almost makes you wonder if any Violence Policy Center or Brady Campaign money contributed to their choice in weaponry.
 
Airsoft for the intimidation factor, a real handgun in the pants in case things go way south?

Seems like an odd choice, I'm thinking toy.
 
I would too except for the hits on the cars. Maybe some crooks saw Heat too many times and thought they could rob a gas station the same way with a different ending. Shooting at the cops like that means they are either crazy, stupid, or unfortunately good at what they do. The economy might be bringing rise to a new generation of motorized bandits.
 
HO88 - "Are these guys total morons? Risking there life and freedom for a couple hundred bucks? "

There are plenty of bad guys out there who will cut your throat for five dollars and never even think twice about it.

L.W.
 
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