Beginnings with 22 LR

Almor

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Hi!! I’ve bought my first 22lr, tikka t1x, and it’s my first gun in this caliber…
I have different doubts .
- After day shooting, do I need to clean it? Only one patch with oil? Or nothing?
- what products are recommended for rimfires ? in one forum I read about I need special products for rimfire guns…

-how often the rifle should be cleaned?

What process do you recommend ??

Thanks!!
 
This is a topic that runs the gamut from, “a good cleaning is required after use” to,”i clean the bore when accuracy degrades” to,”my grandpappy didn't clean his .22 for 80-odd years, and neither will I.”

Personally, I will run an oiled patch down the bore and clean the action/wipe down the exterior well, lube it and put it away.

Any cleaner/lubricant/protectant (CLP) will suffice, pick your brand.

I don’t go haywire with a bore brush, saving that for after several hundred rounds are fired to keep things from getting too gunky.

YMMV.

Congratulations on buying a nice .22! :thumbup:

I will add one thing about .22 rimfires; each has its own personality and will like/dislike ammo individually. It almost always takes shooting a few different brands, velocities and bullet styles to find the one(s) that really shine. Expect to do that, rather than settle on the first load you buy, and you will be rewarded in the end. ;)

Good luck, let us know how it shoots for you when you get a chance.

Stay safe.
 
What does the manual say?
You are going to get alot of different opinions. My self, I clean after each range use. Using the same products for all my non corrosive ammunition. Amsoil MP, Mobil 1 oil, and Mobil grease.
 
I’m not exactly a shining example on “regular maintenance” issues, so bear that in mind. That said, it depends on the rifle for me. If we’re talking about one of my target rifles, I’ll give them “a wipe and a promise” (to actually clean them later) after most range trips. I don’t actually clean the bore but every 5-10 range trips. If it’s my Standard Issue 10/22 Frankenplinker, I’ll wipe it down, but it doesn’t get cleaned but maybe every … 10-15 years?
 
You'll get all sorts of answers from anal retentive types that clean like they're still in the Marine Corps to folks like me that have not cleaned a .22LR bore in 25yrs. I clean the action of any of my guns, when they need it, not every time I shoot. I've owned 67 rimfire guns and still have 56 of those. I never clean the bore of a .22LR. Some guns have 30,000rds through them.
 
Oh, and congratulations on your first .22LR! Tikka gets a lot of good chatter, so I hope it serves you well.

As @Riomouse911 pointed out, Rimfires can be picky. Get a few boxes of different ammo. In particular, get some standard velocity ammo, CCI SV and Aguila SV are good performers at a reasonable cost. You’ll just have to spend some time with your rifle to figure out what it likes.
 
I had a friend who never cleaned his Marlin Glenfield 60 unless he had jams. He must have gone through bricks before cleaning the bore. The thing shot well out to 25 yards, went bang, killed squirrels.

There are those who never clean their bore "until the rifle tells them so", and there are those who clean their rifle after every match. I have seen more of the latter at Regionals/National Matches, because they are there, cleaning their rifles. The no clean crowd, they load up their trucks, and go.

At four day regionals, I clean the barrel, grease the cocking cams and oil the mechanism, every two days. That is approximately after 400 rounds. Before I return home, I clean the barrel and wipe the exterior with solvent patches, wipe that off, and rub with an oily patch because I don't want rust. After matches in my home area, I clean the bore, clean off the exterior, grease the cocking cams, etc, before putting up the firearm because it may be months till I pull out that match rifle again. I have a lot of match 22lr's that I like to shoot.

The 22lr cartridge is an old one, perhaps the oldest still on the market. Dates to the 1880's. It has always been a lubricated cartridge.

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Match ammunition is particularly greased from bullet to rim. Cheap CCI SV is waxed from bullet to rim. Wax and grease are lubricants, the bullet grease to prevent leading, the case grease, to prevent case to chamber friction in semi automatic blowback mechanisms. Wax is less likely to pick up dirt, but the greased stuff shoots better in match rifles.

This lubricant layer causes problems as it is possible to gum up the mechanism to the point the case won't extract. Some mechanisms are more sensitive to hardened wax/lube.

I noticed that early Anschutz rifles had one extractor on the bolt face, later have two. No doubt to help ejection. These are two extractor bolts.


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This bolt type, with spring loaded extractors, handles sticky, gummy chambers well. The extractor has to be worn badly for there to be extraction issues.

this is a BSA trigger mechanism.

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and this is the extractor


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It is very sensitive to a clean chamber. When the chamber is clean and fresh oiled, cases are kicked out a country mile, but as the match goes on, I have failures to eject from the loading port. That's when I use an old, bent bristle brush, to scrub the chamber, and that keeps me going.

Gummy chambers will ruin your score in semi auto mechanisms. Blowback actions need clean chambers and without cleaning, shooters will eventually experience stove pipe jams. Failures to extract will happen at some level of case to chamber friction in a blowback action. It gets worse in cold weather. Our gun club used to hold a combined Bullseye Pistol and Across the Course match in December. It was very difficult to keep a 22lr automatic pistol running in 30-40 degree weather. Wax would blow out of the barrel during ejection, condense, and gum up the action. These blowback pistols actually open where there is some pressure in the barrel, it is called the residual blowback effect. Designers want to increase the time energy is available, and so design the dwell so the residual pressure in the barrel pops the cartridge out, but at a low enough pressure that the case does not rupture.

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At one Bullseye Pistol regional, an All Guard shooter was wiping off the case grease of his 22lr Eley Red Box ammunition, and then wiping all the cartridges with an oily patch. He had failures to eject with the greased stuff. Less with the freshly oiled stuff. This is what Clark recommends



In so far as cleaning the barrel, clean from the breech, try to find a breech bore guide. It is possible to damage the rifling in the throat. One multiple National Champion Smallbore prone shooter, the gunsmith that replaced his barrel, told me he found cleaning rod damage to the rifling. I asked the Champ how that might have happened, well it must have been when he was a teenager and he does not remember when or how. Barrels are made of soft steel, often the end of the rod has a sharp edge, which can dig in. Jags and other stuff might also dig in.

Almost everyone uses a brush to mechanically move crud around. Most push a patch with bore solvent first, then the brush, followed by several patches to get all the crud out. Pick whatever mystic number you believe in for the number of brush strokes. Most people count to ten. I am sure a Summerian would go 3, 6, or 9, as these were mystic numbers 5000 years ago. Then I lightly oil the tube with a patch, knowing that next match, the first two shots will be in the berm, because oily, clean barrels shoot to a different point of impact. Might be worth considering this when using a 22lr as a squirrel rifle. I have not tried cleaning without oiling at the end, so I don't know if a clean but dry barrel will shoot to aim first shot.

I am the sort of person who changes the oil and filter on my vehicles, so I tend to be maintenance biased. I lube the cocking cams. At one State Match a very old shooter was having malfunctions on his Anschutz M54 rifle. What I learned was he was having bolt problems. The bolt was out of his rifle and on the ground. It was dry. Even after some oil had been put on surfaces, we could not get the safety cap on. I think he said, he had never lubricated the bolt, and he had the rifle since he was a kid!

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I believe camming surfaces had galled to the point, metal had deformed, or worn away. Anyway, he packed up and left, and the match continued. I do consider it important to lubricate the camming surfaces, not neglecting the firing pin cams.

As to secret gun oil solvents, rubbish! Vendors will have you believe that your world will collapse into a black hole if you don't use their product. I use all sorts of bore solvents, depending on the price I got them. Used gallons of GI bore solvent, which is mostly kerosene. Used many quarts of Hoppe's, Butch's. Hoppe #9 does a great job of dissolving wax and powder residue. I am afraid of powder residue. It is carbon, attracts water, and I have some very old 22lr barrels which were never cleaned, and are pitted. Wax protects the barrel better than nothing, however the residue in the barrel is a combination of wax and gunpowder, and the gunpowder residue is the stuff that causes problems. Primer residue had strange chemicals, I doubt any are good for metal once moisture gets to them. Just get the wax/gunpowder/primer residue out of the tube before putting your rifle up for months.

There are 1000 post threads about gun oils. I used motor oils as lubricants as they are one of the best lubricants for the price. Motor oil is not a rust inhibitor. Rust inhibitors have additives which block oxygen migration. Works till the oil base evaporates, then no rust inhibition! For long storage, (years to decades) I use RIG grease in the tube. For rifles that get shot every year, a light coat of any oil does well. I regularly pull out rifles on which the oil on the bolt surfaces has dried up, and I wipe down with an oily patch, put a drop or two where needed, and get the thing going.

Get a nice, one piece cleaning rod. Find a bore guide. Get jags, bristle brushes, patches. Clean from the breech. Wipe external surfaces to remove microscopic gunpowder residue. Pick a gun powder solvent that smells good, and costs the least, and use it. Use whatever industrial/gun oil you like. Keeping the gun lubricated is more important than lubricant type. I do prefer greases in the cocking cam. Neco Moly Slide Paste was the only lubricant that lasted in the Compass Lake AR 15 trigger, and I use a drop of the stuff on cocking cams. It is a very good moly lube grease. I have two tubes of the stuff which are several decades old. Use sparingly.
 
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My most accurate 22 rifle is a Cooper 36. After a lot of rounds the chamber gets gunked up with bullet lube etc and having a match chamber extraction becomes an issue. So I brush the chamber and that takes care of that. Otherwise it gets wiped down and put away. Still shoots one ragged hole as always
 
With my .22's, I do a quick clean after each shooting. I put an old T-Shirt on the garage floor and place the rifle vertically with the muzzle resting on the T-Shirt. I open the bolt and spray Ballistol down the barrel a few times and let it sit for 15 -30 minutes. Then I run a bore snake through the barrel a couple of times. Usually spray some Ballistol on a shaving brush & brush down the chamber, the metal and wood stock, wipe with a silicone wipe or a clean rag and I am done. My .22 rifles are all lever guns. I might possibly break one down every couple years but the last time I broke the Henry Golden Boy down for a deep clean after 1000's of rounds, it really wasn't needed.
 
When my brothers and I were young 60 or so years ago we had 2 - .22 rifles at our disposal, an old Winchester pump and a Remington bolt action. We shot the crap out of them and never cleaned them at all as much as I can remember. My brother still has them and while the Winchester's bolt is loose and the extractor doesn't work very well and the rifling is almost worn off it doesn't have much pitting. The Remington is in much better condition although somewhere along the way the front sight got bent but the bore still has some rifling.
I usually pull a bore snake with a little CLP on it through the bore after I shoot my post adulthood rifles and then wipe down the moving parts and barrel with a rag with CLP on it. I recommend that you do whatever you feel comfortable with but give the weapon a good inspection after every shoot to determine if you are getting carbon, powder, or dirt accumulation to and if a more thorough regimen is needed.
 
The biggest thing is to prevent a carbon ring, also to be consistent. Accuracy guys clean. Plinkers don't. Flyers are the result of a few things, one being a carbon ring. Some claim wax buildup helps. I say it just is another variable and is inconsistent. Clean is consistent.
 
I run a bore snake after spraying a foaming bore cleaner (they all work the same, I like foaming) down the barrel and waiting a few minutes.
Then I clean the bolt face and lube per the manual instructions.
 
Good rimfire ammunition features a uniform coat of wax on each bullet. When such rounds are fired in a "clean" bore, each will deposit a layer of wax and fouling. After several shots, conditions in the bore will stabilize: each bullet removes a bit of wax and fouling and leaves behind a bit of its own. This sort of "stable" bore will normally be at least reasonably accurate, and almost completely resistant to corrosion. "Cleaning" such a bore is just stripping out the wax, and that wax will need to be replaced by something in order to protect the bore - and whatever that stuff is will need to be removed, and the wax restored by firing some amount of ammunition, before the desired stable condition is again achieved.

In that light, "cleaning" doesn't make much sense.

There are lots of caveats, though. One is that such reasoning only extends to the bore. Actions - bolt, auto, and everything else - still need to be scrubbed. And most rimfire ammunition is not "good" rimfire ammunition. If you are using stuff that comes out of a carton, or stuff with copper-washed or even copper jacketed bullets, then none of the above applies, and you will need to clean just like you would with any centerfire.

Tl;dr: If you're shooting bulk pack .22, clean like you always do. If you're testing ammunition, clean between each brand, and shoot a few of the next batch before getting serious. And if you've found a good, accurate, decent-quality (CCI Standard Velocity on up, in my book) load, then clean the action and exterior surfaces after every session, and never touch the bore!
 
Good rimfire ammunition features a uniform coat of wax on each bullet. When such rounds are fired in a "clean" bore, each will deposit a layer of wax and fouling. After several shots, conditions in the bore will stabilize: each bullet removes a bit of wax and fouling and leaves behind a bit of its own. This sort of "stable" bore will normally be at least reasonably accurate, and almost completely resistant to corrosion. "Cleaning" such a bore is just stripping out the wax, and that wax will need to be replaced by something in order to protect the bore - and whatever that stuff is will need to be removed, and the wax restored by firing some amount of ammunition, before the desired stable condition is again achieved.

In that light, "cleaning" doesn't make much sense.

There are lots of caveats, though. One is that such reasoning only extends to the bore. Actions - bolt, auto, and everything else - still need to be scrubbed. And most rimfire ammunition is not "good" rimfire ammunition. If you are using stuff that comes out of a carton, or stuff with copper-washed or even copper jacketed bullets, then none of the above applies, and you will need to clean just like you would with any centerfire.

Tl;dr: If you're shooting bulk pack .22, clean like you always do. If you're testing ammunition, clean between each brand, and shoot a few of the next batch before getting serious. And if you've found a good, accurate, decent-quality (CCI Standard Velocity on up, in my book) load, then clean the action and exterior surfaces after every session, and never touch the bore!
That is a theory that many believe. I don't, my target and competition guns shoot best clean. And POI and accuracy do not improve with shooting. If bullet lube and not cleaning makes a improvement my experiments don't show it. As far as I know, all bench rest competitors clean even during matches. But if it works for you fine. Never cleaning the bore means carbon buildup and cold bore flyers. Also old lube does that too. Thats why you need warm-up shots or fouling shots. I don't. I sometimes shoot turkey matches, cold bore no sighters, no warm-up. I usually win.
I only use match grade ammo in some rifles.
 
What benchrest shooters do doesn't really apply though. Those guys are chasing thousandths. When you're cutting your barrel so the bullet exits at a particular place in its rotation, you're playing a totally different game.

The idea that carbon or anything else is continually building up over time in the bore is just not true. The action, yes but not the bore.
 
That is a theory that many believe. I don't, my target and competition guns shoot best clean. And POI and accuracy do not improve with shooting. If bullet lube and not cleaning makes a improvement my experiments don't show it. As far as I know, all bench rest competitors clean even during matches. But if it works for you fine. Never cleaning the bore means carbon buildup and cold bore flyers. Also old lube does that too. Thats why you need warm-up shots or fouling shots. I don't. I sometimes shoot turkey matches, cold bore no sighters, no warm-up. I usually win.
I only use match grade ammo in some rifles.
Your experience is exactly opposite mine. I shot BR-50, winter biathlon, and 50 meter free pistol. That was all a while ago, but at least at that time, few people cleaned the bores of their guns, and almost nobody scrubbed them down to bare steel unless something was really wrong. And it was widely accepted that a good way to guarantee cold bore flyers was to clean your bore!
 
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