Benelli M2 Tactical?

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Once again, I need some info.

I'm looking to purchase a home defense shotgun. I was originally considering the Mossberg with Mesa Tactical AR Adapter and Surefire forend. That roughly equals $800 bucks.

The Benelli M2 Tactical is only $900 plus Surefire and I get a wicked discount for being active duty military so I might as well get the good stuff.

Every Benelli I've ever shot has been flawless...super fast and a pure pleasure to shoot. I talked to a few trusted friends about it and they said a lot of the newer guns had problems. Now, I don't quite believe it, but I'm obligated to ask. :scrutiny:

I've got no problem spending the money, but I want something dead nuts reliable.

What else would you suggest?

Calling 45R!

Ed
 
I'll start by saying I'm no shotgun expert. But when I looked into getting a shotty for home defense I did a lot of looking and have since purchased a variety of lead slingers.

On the home defense market the two big names I see over and over again are the mossburg 500 and the remington 870. Every accessory out there is made for one of those two first. Most of the advice I see is to buy a bone stock shotty with maybe just a light and then use the extra cash for training and practice.

I've handled a benelii a few times and they are great guns but you said "but I want something dead nuts reliable". Considering the legions of people who choose the 500 or 870 to defend their life I think they are both as reliable as you are ever going to find. That being said, if you like the benelli I'm sure that it will do just fine. Just make sure you do the training in addition to buying the gun.
 
Ed, 870s are as close to 100 percent reliable as anything made by Man. 10K shots without a glitch is typical.

Mossbergs are also good. One fired more than 40K rounds may develop probs. At 40K, an 870 would just be getting broken in well.

Benellis SEEM, and I qualify that because I haven't shot a mess of them, to be excellent weapons, though they run high in cost and the triggers can stand improvement.

There's lots of good shotguns out there, we're the weakest link. Whatever you get, shoot the $%^&*( out of it.
 
The m2 is a great gun, as good as the m1 has been and the m3, the bad word from your friends could be because of some problems encountered in the military with the m4, but that's a completely different gun, as you probably know, gas operated instead of "inertia driven".

The m2 is basicly a updated m1 to be able to use the "comfort tech" stocks and other new extras that benelli has out for the other types of shotguns they offer.

So if you know benelli's and like them, the M2 will be a great bead side company at night.
 
Ed,

Try 'em all out (if you can). Go with what fits/feels right. The one that comes up to your shoulder and slides into your cheek so you can see straight down the barrel/rib, like it was made for you. You'll know it's the right one when it feels right. (or at least better then the rest).

Your life and the life of your loved ones depend on you chosing wisely.

Once you found what fits, work on the software. BA/UU/R until it's second nature.
 
Ed-

First off, Welcome home brother and thanks for serving. :)

As per the Benelli, Mxyzpltk pretty much summed it up.

"The m2 is basicly a updated m1 to be able to use the "comfort tech" stocks and other new extras that benelli has out for the other types of shotguns they offer."

River City Gun Exchange in Sacramento is selling the M1 Tactical for a bit over 7 bills right now. Might save you some dough if you dont mind the M1 Variants.

Everygun I buy and own must be reliable and accurate. The Benelli has always feed and fired every round I've been able to stuff. Great guns for the money with performance you can depend on. Round per Round its actually more reliable than my 870. An empty shell was stuck in the chamber during the first 100 rounds and I had to use the Dave-Slam Stock on ground method to eject the shell.

Lets get out soon.

Best


45R
 
Thank you all for the responses but the ultimate bedside shotgun has been postponed.

A sweet little old lady came into the Rod & Gun Club today and sold some of her late husbands guns. A field grade Winchester 101 in 20 gauge was screaming my name. I get so weak around beautiful double barrel shotguns. :sniff sniff: Nevermind the S&W Model 60 that I also picked up.

I thought I restrained myself quite well actually...I could have bought the 1944 Remington Rand 1911 or the 1937 Luger. Well, I might have bought the 1911. I'm waiting to see if she'll accept my offer. Things could have been a lot worse. :D

Ed
 
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I have seen 10 times more 870s malfunction/shortshucked in panic situations than I have seen Benellis malfunction in the same situation. The Benelli is twice as fast too. I could hit all my targets before the 870 guys were done with half theirs.

870 superiority is THE biggest myth on this board. Hands down. Police buy them because they are cheap. Civilians buy them because they want to be like the pros.

870s are good. Benellis are way better.
 
I live in California. I have seen students and teachers short shuck the 870 under stress. Many times they got a click instead of a bang because the chamber was empty and the dynamic environment did not give the a chance to do a chamber check. Your choice of a weapon NEEDs to take into account a certain tolerance for operator error. Murphy's law ect..

I have never seen ONE shoot faster than my Benelli. Not one. Ever. As a matter of fact, in one class on a timed shooting competition, put the pump gun guys into their own group because they were loosing everytime to the guys with the Benellis.

I don't hate 870s. But, they have their quirks. The above descibed situation where the user has to slam the butt of the gun on the ground to free the shell that jumped the carrier. Also, if you are putting rearward pressure on the forearm at the time of firing, you will have to release the pressure before you can cycle the gun.

I feel like I am trying to explain to people the world is not flat.
 
S'funny, I've shot myriad 870s since the late 50s and have yet to short shuck one. I had 20 years in with 870s before I was told that they could be jammed up. I didn't believe them at first. Still haven't needed that clearance drill.

Of course, 50-60K plus of shells may not be an adequate test, will advise.

It's too bad we cannot meet someplace and settle this once and for all. Preferably a nice dusty, sandy place and we could use my light 7/8 oz loads....
 
Dave, I think you are the exception. Most guys don't shoot 1/10 of what you shoot in a lifetime. The rest of the world would be better served with a gun that minimizes the chance of human error.

Sun Tsu said in his book that any plan that demands perfection out of human beings, is the wrong plan. Ie - you have to plan for human screw ups. This may be an early version of Murphy's law for combat.

Both are good. The Benelli is better because it does not require as much from a stressed out individual, full of adrenaline, scared, in a life and death struggle.
 
Benellis are great but keep the junk off. They have been known to have cycling problems with things like lights.
 
AFAIK, the M2 doesn't have a light for it as the forends are different. So I hear. Haven't played with one myself.

IMO the M2 should have a shorter stock. So should the M1.

The M1 is great. If you get one, get a light, too.
 
Dave, I can make any shotgun malf through ignorance, inattention and stupidity. So can most folks. The path to proficiency is use. BA/UU/R is essential with life protecting,"Serious" gear.

You seem reality based and knowledgeable. Let's just agree to disagree on this, barring a chance to test out theories and weapons side by side.....
 
I've never short-stroked an 870, either and I've not shot near as much as Dave McC...

If I was dropped from a helicopter into Iraq and told to pick up a shotgun, it would be the 870, without a second thought. The Benelli definitely has some good features, but the 870 will keep working long after the M1S90 will. And with any 2-3/4" & 3" loads... and regardless of the environment/conditions... and regardless of the accessories put on the gun... regardless of the lateral sling tension... regardless of body posture... regardless of bumping the side of the receiver hard into a doorway... regardless of difficult shooting positions...

The M1S90 does have some handy features, but having had both and presently having both, I would still pick the 870.

That's just me...
 
Benelli M2

I have both the Mossberg 500 and the m2. the 500 is behind my bedroom door loaded. the benelli goes with me to the range for competitions. I shoot the 500 about once a month just to keep up with the weapon system function. the major difference from my point is how fast you can shoot it. I think in the home defense mode the 500 is more then you will ever need. I have found I can not manipulate the pump as fast as I can pull the trigger o n the M2. I have added the tube extension to the M2 the 500 came that way I have tactical lights to both.

Good luck
Bert
 
I have an M1 and a 590. Both are fine shotguns. I prefer the Benelli but there is nothing wrong with the Mossberg. What matters is what you prefer.
 
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