Black Panthers, forty years ago

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A seminal event remembered
From the LA Times:


May 3 2007

Sacramento — Half a dozen black men wearing leather jackets and carrying loaded guns burst through the massive doors of the California Assembly chamber. Twenty brothers in arms waited outside in the hall.

The Assembly was in session, approaching lunchtime. Some lawmakers dived under their desks. Others darted for a side door. Most simply froze and stared in disbelief.

That was 40 years ago Wednesday.

The terrifying incident put the invaders — the fledging Oakland-based Black Panther Party for Self Defense — on the international map. Black Panthers became a household name.

For the Capitol, it was a seminal event. It ended an era of innocence, a time when politicians regarded the domed, granite monolith as a sanctuary from the dangers of everyday violence. It ushered in the gradual tightening of security, culminating in the fortress-like building it is today, guarded by magnetometers, security cameras and vehicle-stopping steel posts ringing the park.

The Capitol never again would be quite so cozy.

While startling, the episode did reflect the boiling turmoil of the '60s, the political perfect storm of civil rights activism and Vietnam War protests that often erupted in violence.

But the Panthers cooked up this event as a publicity stunt.
Ostensibly, they were at the Capitol to protest — get this! — a Republican-sponsored gun control bill. The Assembly GOP caucus chairman, Don Mulford of Piedmont, was pushing legislation to ban the carrying of loaded firearms within any city.

"We have a constitutional right to bear arms," the Panthers shouted as they roamed the Capitol. Panther co-founder Bobby Seale read a statement to reporters claiming that the bill was "aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless."

"Today, the Republicans would be defending the Panthers' right to have guns," says Democrat Willie Brown, who 40 years ago was an assemblyman and later became Assembly speaker and then San Francisco's mayor.

"I was shocked — totally shocked," Brown recalls of the invasion. "Anyone walking in with weapons, you kidding me!"

May 2, 1967, was a nice sunny day in Sacramento. Gov. Ronald Reagan was about to join an eighth-grade social studies class on the Capitol's west lawn for a fried chicken lunch. Suddenly a group of guys with guns — rifles, shotguns, side arms — came marching through.
From the Associated Press bureau on the Capitol's second floor, chief correspondent Bill Stall was glancing out the window. The future Times staffer remembers the bizarre scene: "They looked like an infantry company coming through the trees."

The Panthers climbed a stairwell to the second-floor Assembly chamber, knocking over a sergeant-at-arms at a swinging gate. Then they barreled through the big oak door.

Back then, reporters were allowed to have small desks alongside the Assembly floor, and I was at mine, near the front of the chamber. I still can hear the panic in the shouting of the presiding officer, Assemblyman Carlos Bee (D-Hayward): "Sergeant, remove those people immediately."

Nobody was going near those people.

"The membership became very frightened and started scrambling, going for cover," remembers Brown, who was standing near the back. "I couldn't figure out why. Then I turned around and saw these fellows in their Panther uniforms and berets. I immediately said, 'What are you guys doing here? You're going to get in a lot of trouble. You can't be bringing guns into the chamber.' "

It's remembered a little differently by Tony Beard Jr., who's now the Senate's chief sergeant-at-arms, and then was also standing at the rear of the chamber. His dad, Tony Beard Sr., was the Assembly's chief sergeant.

Brown, one of five black Assembly members, produced "the funniest moment I remember," Beard says. "He was standing to the Panthers' right, looking at some papers. He looked over at them, they look over at him. He kind of shrugged and said, 'I'm with you guys.' Then looked back at his papers.

"That's when I learned how smart Willie was."

Brown disputes it. "First of all, I wasn't a Panther," he says. "I did represent some Panthers on a robbery charge once." Attorney Brown got them off.

Another future legislative leader in the chamber that day was Assemblyman David Roberti (D-Los Angeles), who later would head the Senate.

"I was a freshman. It was a great initiation," he says. "Frankly, I wasn't scared because I was too naïve to realize what was happening."

I'll admit to being a tad scared. I walked toward the commotion, always keeping a desk or a rail or a column between me and the bad guys, as I perceived them. I'd grown up with guns and was, at that time, an avid hunter. One slip of the finger. Maybe some misguided sergeant would try to be hero and start a firefight.

Fortunately, there was one real hero: Tony Beard Sr., a former USC football star and Hollywood stuntman (for Clark Gable in "Gone With the Wind," for example). His dad had headed the state police.

"What I remember was that Tony Beard rushed back there and grabbed their guns and started throwing them out of the chamber," says former Assemblyman Bill Campbell (R-Hacienda Heights). "It was amazing."

Tony Jr. recalls it this way: "Dad came back and said, 'What do you guys want?' He said it cordially and professionally, not cop-like.

"They said, 'We want to see our Assembly representatives.'
" 'Well, you can't do it this way.' 'How do you do it?' 'You need to go out and stand behind the gate. Then we can bring a member back.'
"So they went back behind the gate. It taught me a lot about demeanor and presence.

"Of course, nobody wanted to come out of the chamber to talk to them."

Some state cops arrived and unloaded the Panthers' weapons. But no law had been broken. Soon afterward, the Legislature made it illegal to carry a firearm in the Capitol.

On their way out of town, a few Panthers were arrested by city cops for breaking a fish and game law: having a loaded gun in a car. Seale served jail time.

The Mulford bill passed, basically making it illegal to carry a loaded gun in public.

On that day 40 years ago, no shots were fired. Nobody was hurt. The Panthers looked scary, but really weren't. Today, some people don't look scary, but really are.
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Actually, they were far from "patriots". Some of the founders embraced anarchy and raping of White women as a "payback" of some sick sort. I think that was Eldridge Cleaver. He also spoke well of Communism so I've no love for him and his ilk.

That said, the METHODS employed against them was also horrific.
 
You've drank too deeply the red Kool-Aid, freakazoid.

No Communist country allows it's people the ownership of arms!

Anarchist, eh?

Good "luck"
 
You've drank too deeply the red Kool-Aid, freakazoid.

I do not understand this. Is it some kind of drug reference? I do not do drugs, but I do think that people should be allowed to if they wanted.

No Communist country allows it's people the ownership of arms!

I have stated it before and I will state it again. Communism is classless and STATELESS. There is no such thing as a communist country, it is an oxymoron. In a truley communist society the people would be allowed to walk around with a 1919 if he so chooses.
 
Communism is classless and STATELESS
Communist society also looks good on paper at first glance, so long as you overlook the fatal error that communists assume that people are good and incorruptible.
 
Communist society also looks good on paper at first glance, so long as you overlook the fatal error that communists assume that people are good and incorruptible.


True.

I remember in grade 7 talking to my parents about communism (~1982), my dad came unglued when I said it sounded good, no upper and middle classes and such. I thought I just started WWIII. I originally said it sounded good after hearing a lecture from my world history teacher. I think he pretty much laid it out for us to see, no opinion one way or the other. It honestly sounded like it was a good idea. After a thorough tongue lashing from dad I talk to the teacher the next day. He chuckled at me and said my dad was right.
 
I have stated it before and I will state it again. Communism is classless and STATELESS. There is no such thing as a communist country, it is an oxymoron. In a truley communist society the people would be allowed to walk around with a 1919 if he so chooses.
I disagree with you. My reading of Marx works (of which I do own a copy, and have read more than once) seems to suggest that a Marxist Communist governing arrangement would propogate a state that is extremely powerful , and has the capability to (and to some extent must) impose strong arm rule over the people. Pay special attention to Marx description of the 10 tenants of a Communist society in the chapter 'nothing to loose but their chains' IIRC.
 
so we can thank the black panthers for many anti gun laws.

can't say i ever seen one but the kkk is growing out here.
 
Forgive my ignorance, but weren't the Black Panthers something of the Black equivalent of the KKK? I'll grant you an organization was needed to counter the KKK, but didn't the Black Panthers commit all sorts bad stuff? So, why would we talk about them here?
 
There's a double standard going on with the Black Panthers and similar militant groups in the gun rights community.

I see lots of "live free or die!" and "I would take up arms to defend against tyranny!" talk. And most of this comes from folks who live in conditions that are not even a shadow of what the members of the Black Panthers grew up with.

Different time, different attitudes. The Black Panthers formed in a time when being black could get you killed, and when it was routine to ignore, abuse, or otherwise mistreat Americans because of their skin color. There's no comparison between a group like that and the KKK, imho.
 
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chenist asked:

>Forgive my ignorance, but weren't the Black Panthers something of the Black equivalent of the KKK?<
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Not exactly. While some chapters were pretty militant, I suspect that those were spread fairly thin. Most of the ones that I knew personally were pretty decent, and we all got along well except in the area of politics.

I went to high school with Winston-Salem Panther chairman Larry Little for one year before transferring to another school in my district...and he was a soft-spoken, easy-goin' guy. Shot a pretty good hoop, too. They were more into providing services for the poor in their community, and fundraising to buy ambulances. Very active during Christmas, and played Santa for a buttload of kids who were fatherless. Later on in life, Larry went into politics and served as an alderman a few times. He's still active, though not as high profile as he used to be. He never ran on a Panther party ticket, but registered as a Democratic candidate instead.

And, yes. Many went openly armed to some of their meetings. This was the south in the 60s, after all.
 
freakazoid said:
There is no such thing as a communist country, it is an oxymoron. In a truley communist society the people would be allowed to walk around with a 1919 if he so chooses.
That's a noble ideal, but that's all it is. It is a fantasy.

In actual application, you've got to give a man a reason not to take two when everyone else has one.
That reason will be punishment backed up by force, so somebody would have to be better armed than the rest;
and then everyone would no longer be equal.
 
the fundamental problem with communism is the denial of the human behaviors based on evolution. Humans are sucessful because we are opportunistic and expansionistic in terms of resources and habitat. Tool using and teamwork is our methodology to enable those traits to be successful. (this also can explain a number of environmental issues, how we got there, and even nationalistic/religious problems today)

communism is tring to deny that to the individual for the group. That is fighting uphill against the history of the species and a great number of biological drives. That's why it never works.

And frankly, the real communist species may be bees and ants, and that's by no means a society of equals either.
 
Well, if any of you believe in a Creator then Communism is automatically at odds with you. History has shown that you'd be liquidated for your "petty belief in God. The state is God."

No thanks.

Humanism flirts with similar philosophy. It could be argued that the Communist leaders were Humanists, who BY THEIR ACTIONS AND INTENT, were Satanists. They also described The State as themselves. How convenient...
 
I hate it when communism comes up for discussion on the Internet and everyone says "it's a noble, wonderful idea, but would never work in practice."

I don't think it sounds like a noble utopia at all, even in its ideal state. It's just not right.

[EDIT] Oops, I see we already have a thread for communism. Carry on!

On topic: last month's SWAT magazine had a story about fighting while injured and used a tale about a group of Black Panthers. 4 of them purposely violated traffic laws to set the cops up, and then turned on them all at once and started firing. They severely injured the two cops, but the police were able to return fire and kill 3 of them. Smack down!

On the KKK and Black Panther thing, were all KKK groups pretty militant, or did they have any community interest activities as well? I don't know much about them.
 
Communism, as defined by: "Each according to his ability, each according to his needs" does exist and does work in numerous places around the world.

They're called families.

Anything beyond that is folly, and history has proved it over and over.
 
Originally posted by Chui:
Actually, they were far from "patriots". Some of the founders embraced anarchy and raping of White women as a "payback" of some sick sort. I think that was Eldridge Cleaver. He also spoke well of Communism so I've no love for him and his ilk.

Do you have any sort of proof or citations for that? It would be nice to have that rather than what "you think".

The Black Panthers embodied a great and noble idea. They were socialists more than they were communists. And there is a big difference between the two ideologies.
 
Sorry about that, Art. The KKK also policed it's own communities and insured that each person behaved properly according to a friend I have who should know.

The BPP also had some beneficial concerns with the community. I'm not sure if the radicals merged and took over (that's what I believe) or all of it's members were Anarchists/Marxists. While I had/have no issues with persons/groups being armed it's their INTENT that concerns me.

From my limited perspective there's no room for the violent-armed-separatists groups in the fabric of America. There's no way to get rid of the ideology unless we ALL come to agree to become Americans first and respect and honor ourselves, our communities and each other. It WILL come to this before it's all over. Perhaps not in our lifetime, but I strongly sense that it will. The foundations are being laid. Let's just hope the "birthing pains" aren't too great a burden.
 
I have a friend who loaned me a book that I didn't finish reading. I think it was Soledad Brothers, Tecumseh.
 
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