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Boresnake Viper stuck in bbl

Discussion in 'Gunsmithing and Repairs' started by jimherb, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. jimherb

    jimherb Well-Known Member

    I have a boresnake Viper stuck in my .223 bbl. I used a rod to see if I could push it out, but I think it made it worse. I have been pouring Kroil down the bbl to see if I could loosen it up. I blame the tassle on the end of the Viper snake as the culprit.

    Any ideas on how to get it out without harming the bbl?:banghead:
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    See, thats why I hate bore-snakes!!

    I might try a 120 PSI air compressor with a blow-gun nozzle and see if you can blow it out.

    Failing that, go to a welding shop or hardware store and buy a stick of brass rod.
    The closer to bore size, the better.
    7/32" or 13/64" would be ideal, but you might have to settle for 3/16".

    Then drive it out.

    DO NOT attempt to drive it out with a jointed cleaning rod, or a wood dowel rod.

    If that doesn't work?
    I would center drill a brass cleaning rod jag and solder a 1/8" drill bit in it.

    Then hand turn the cleaning rod and drill & pick it it out, one fluff ball at a time.

  3. clocker

    clocker Well-Known Member

    Is the fabric portion of the bore snake out of the barrel or can you only pull on the string? If you can get to the main body of the bore snake then I'd clamp the barrel in a vise and get a pair of vise grips and pull hard on the bore snake. You might want to get an assistant to help hold the rifle so that it does not slip and damage any of the finish.
  4. backbencher

    backbencher Well-Known Member

    So is the loop still outside the chamber, & is the brass tip & string outside the muzzle? Or did it break & leave some inside?
  5. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Well-Known Member

    Did the string break? Why can't you just pull it through?
  6. Centurian22

    Centurian22 Well-Known Member

    I don't get this! I have seen this posted multiple times but have yet to figure it out. What happened, what part(s) are still sticking out?
  7. jimherb

    jimherb Well-Known Member

    The string broke, of course. So, I have a little bit of the body sticking out of the muzzle. I really don't have enough to tie it to something so I could pull on the stock. (That's how I broke the string.) I have been soaking it with Kroil in hope that it will loosen up.
  8. backbencher

    backbencher Well-Known Member

    Is there enough sticking out to shove a knitting needle or summit, & roll the thing out? You'd have to protect the muzzle w/ cardboard or something so you don't hurt the crown.

    Alternatively, can you get some thin needlenose or alligator pliers down the chamber & reach the top of it? If you've got an AR, you'd have to remove the bbl from the upper.

    Interesting problem, as I've got two of these for the M4 & M9, so I look forward to knowing how you fix it.
  9. twofifty

    twofifty Well-Known Member

    There's not enough of the body sticking out the muzzle that a clove hitch or lark's head with heavy-test fishing line couldn't get a hold?
  10. Creature

    Creature Well-Known Member

    This is why I stay away from bore snakes.

    How about using a locking hemostat?
  11. clocker

    clocker Well-Known Member

    jimherb: Can you attach some pics... both for suggestions and for warnings to those of use who use boresnakes in the future :)
  12. MarcoPolo

    MarcoPolo Active Member

    This might not be a good idea, but could you burn it out? You wouldn't have to burn the whole thing to ash just enough to loosen it some. With the oil on it it should go fast. After its burned for a few seconds submerge in water to extinguish the flames. Barrel temp should stay low so not to harm the integrity of the barrel. I've never used a bore snake so if it is a nylon material it could make a plastic sticky mess. Just another idea any thoughts?
  13. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Well-Known Member

    Drano? Lye?
  14. fguffey

    fguffey Well-Known Member

    Bore snake, I looked at at one, thought about it for a few seconds, then made a different kind/type of bore/wiper/outer that is impossible to stick and is adjustable/sorta (sort of).

    I had a small crises that required I commit time about the time someone ask if I could remove a dowel from a barrel, he came over, I sent him home with a tool, I would have removed the stick had he not pounded on it in an attempt to remove it.

    F. Guffey
  15. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Impossible to get a fire to burn inside a plugged bore.

    There is no way possible for fresh air/oxygen to get to the flame to support it with fire coming out of the hole..

  16. baylorattorney

    baylorattorney Well-Known Member

    As much as it may wound you take it to a gun shop pro. I did.
  17. baylorattorney

    baylorattorney Well-Known Member

    Kroil just makes it fatter. **** edited. Take it to a gunsmith. The lets all file a class action lawsuit.
  18. jimherb

    jimherb Well-Known Member

    I was afraid the Kroil was just making the jam fatter. If I can get over to my daughter's. she has a good workshop (she's a cabinet maker.) All else fails, to the gunsmith. I have no beef against Boresnake, per se, but the Viper version has this funny tassle on the end. I would advise cutting this part off if you get one.
  19. jrhines

    jrhines Well-Known Member

    One more time...

    what usually jams is the bronze brush. If that is the case here, plug one end of the barrel and fill with MEK (methyl ethyl ketone). This will dissolve the copper in the bronze bristles and should allow the snake to be extracted. MEK is safe to use, it is not cancer in a can.
    First time I tried this I was trying to dissolve the nylon, the bronze went instead, the MEK came out of the barrel a light blue-green.
  20. jgh4445

    jgh4445 Well-Known Member

    Got one out one time by tying a tiny fish hook to some 50lb tst braided line and dropping the hook in the barrel. Used a brass brazing rod to kind of shove the hook into the cloth part, put the rifle in a vice and tied the braided line around a stick to form a handle. Worked for me. Wasn't stuck that badly though.

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