Rancho Relaxo
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I've always found it interesting that single shot rifles can be so cheap, yet add another barrel to the mix and the price suddenly jumps hundreds, thousands of dollars!
break-open action single-shot rifle, what's the point?
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The shoulder arm I used most growing up was a H&R Topper, Jr. 20 gauge. The H&R/NEF arms are quite cost effective, handy, and lightweight, but research indicates they seem to not be as accurate as some other arms (because of the exposed hammer).
T/Cs have a reputation for extreme accuracy.
John
T/Cs have a reputation for extreme accuracy.
John
dmazur
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I believe it's because the traditional method of adjusting the barrels so they impact at the same point ("regulating", I believe it's called) involved trial-and-error. Fit, sweat the assembly together, shoot, break it loose and refit, repeat until it works.
I think a Russian company came up with something involving a setscrew to regulate the second barrel to the first, and this eliminated all the labor. I think Remington was importing this and offering it as a double rifle in .30-06 for around $1500 or less. I have no idea what the quality is, or if there is any demand in the U.S. for double rifles.
I'm guessing here, but I think double shotguns have the same problem, except maybe the regulating doesn't have to be as perfect as it does for a rifle. As a result, I'll bet a jig or fixture during assembly is sufficient.
Cpt. America
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Its the challange of the one shot one kill.
gb6491
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fireman 9731,
Thanks
Yes, that's the sight. Brownells has them for $140 (price after logging in). That's still a little steep, but there's a story behind this rifle that's yet to be finished; for the moment let's just say I've named it "Ole Constipation". The sight is pretty nice, but I think they need to center the aperture in the sliding bar (it's a little below center and is like that on all I've seen). I also think the screw that adjust the pressure on the detent ball for the sliding piece should be finger adjustable vice the screwdriver style on it now.
As to alternatives; there is the Williams Fool Proof and Fool Proof Target; love the name and would probably have went with one of them if I was not so stubborn:banghead:
I think that a Krag Jorgeson rear sight could be made to work. The Springfield Trapdoor sight is said to work as well.
Beyond that, I think you would be looking at a tang style aperture sight mounted on the wood, a false tang, or a welded on tang.
A Malcolm scope would be the something, but they cost more than the rifle
Regards,
Greg
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Hungry Seagull
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sarday that looks nothing more than a classic vietnam era thump grenade gun.
But one modern and tatic-cooled out to the max for today's Congress.
But one modern and tatic-cooled out to the max for today's Congress.
moooose102
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ONE SHOT-ONE KILL. how many do you need? if you do your part, and bring enough caliber, you don't need a repeater. unless you are hunting dangerous game. besides, single shots are a lot less expensive to shoot. you will find yourself aiming much more carefully to make that one shot count. so you won't be out there just spitting out lead.
P.B.Walsh
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Sartday, how did you do that?!?!?!? If I new I would probaly getting one in the future, that is sooo cool!!!!!
MMCSRET
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I have owned several break action SS rifles. The only draw back I experienced was capturing the fired case as it was ejected, especially with a low mounted scope. I haven't bought any ammunition in almost 40 years and my guns only shoot my handloads, so I am interested in capturing my fired case. It is an awkward configuration in a very good shooting platform, otherwise.
Loyalist Dave
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Hmmm I have several of the H&R Handi-rifles, because I found they are very good on accuracy, if you buy the right barrel, just as you would on a match rilfe vs a hunting rifle. So the lightweight, shorter barrel will not shoot as well as the longer, fluted or bull barrel versions. I have .22, .223. and .308 caliber barrels. With hand loads I have gotten 1 moa from the .308, and very close with the .223. They aren't match rifles, but considering that what I paid for the three rifles plus an extra barrel each was about half of what I would pay for a match rifle without scope. They don't eject, they only extract, so no worries about keeping track of those scarce components. You do get what you pay for, but imho they are a very good value for the price. I intend to get a few more.
LD
SP Shop Foreman
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They're the perfect rifle for teaching children to shoot. My son is only two and a half but he has a single shot Chipmunk waiting for him.
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jacob.elliott
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my brotherinlaw has a h&r handi rifle in 223 and it will shoot the same hole at 200 yards.
gb6491
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Senior Chief,
My H&R came with an extractor vice ejector. If you have or happen upon one with an ejector there is an mod to make it an extractor type:
http://www.brimstonepistoleros.com/articles/hr-ejector-mod.html
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/topic,134289.msg1098510727.html#msg1098510727
Regards,
Greg
fireman 9731
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Thanks for the info gb6491
MMCSRET
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All of my H&R and NEF rifles and shotguns ejected, maybe they changed to extractors lately. My Rolling and Falling blocks all extract and I like that. My Contenders also extract, mmmmmm good!
Tinpig
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Agree with others about the usefulness of a break-action single-shot for training new shooters, and for everyday use. Both my boys learned to shoot with a NEF 20 gauge. When it's broken-open it's safe, no confusion and easy for all to see.
I still use it all the time. Also, I have adapter bushings and can shoot .410 out of the 20. (Only one gauge in the pocket at a time, naturally.)
Tinpig
I still use it all the time. Also, I have adapter bushings and can shoot .410 out of the 20. (Only one gauge in the pocket at a time, naturally.)
Tinpig
t george
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i have really come to love my older style contender and when shooting it i really take my time and pick my shots with care... for some reason this just seems like better practice to me and i generaly have more fun with it than i do with auto loaders and bolt guns dont really know what it is but there is just somthing about only haveing one shot at a time...
Hmmm...
Was she stupid about spending lots of money?
Did she flaunt her stupidity and use it with abandon?
Was she so stupid that you found her stupidity to be a luxury in conjunction with her beauty?
A way with words, Duke.
(You're a lawyer, right?)gbran
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My TC with one of many barrels
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Armed Bear: "Hmmm... Was she stupid about spending lots of money?"
Yes.
"Did she flaunt her stupidity and use it with abandon?"
Yes.
"Was she so stupid that you found her stupidity to be a luxury in conjunction with her beauty?"
Yes.
"A way with words, Duke."
I suppose so, because when I popped the question she said, "Yes."
It took me ten years to escape.
Yes.
"Did she flaunt her stupidity and use it with abandon?"
Yes.
"Was she so stupid that you found her stupidity to be a luxury in conjunction with her beauty?"
Yes.
"A way with words, Duke."
I suppose so, because when I popped the question she said, "Yes."
It took me ten years to escape.
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