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bull barrel vs. typical bushing 1911 barrel

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by SHAGGY101, Sep 27, 2009.

  1. SHAGGY101

    SHAGGY101 New Member

    Jul 14, 2009
    I have been looking at different 1911s and have noticed about 2.5 different types of barrels. They are the bull barrel, a match grade "bushing barrel", and a heavy flanged cone match grade barrel. I have only seen this cone design on Wilson 1911s and that is why I call it .5. I know that as far as rifles go, the thicker the barrel, the better. Is this true for pistols as well, does it really matter with such a short barrel any way?

    My question is which is better, more reliable over time, and simpler? And also. has anyone had any experience with this cone type barrel design?

    Thanks, any responses are greatly appreciated.
  2. rcmodel

    rcmodel Member in memoriam

    Sep 17, 2007
    Eastern KS
    The cone type barrels came about when the "short" & "chopped" craze started.

    There is no room for a barrel bushing in guns shorter then Commander length, so the cone barrel & full length guide rod was invented to do away with the barrel bushing & recoil spring plug.

    I favor barrel bushings fitted to the slide & barrel.
    They can be re-fitted, or easily replaced if wear ever becomes an issue.
    I also favor GI type recoil spring plugs over FL guide rods for less weight and easier field takedown.

    A loose or worn slide or cone barrel is just gonna be loose, as there is nothing much you can easily do about it.
    Same is true of a bushingless bull barrel.

  3. SHAGGY101

    SHAGGY101 New Member

    Jul 14, 2009
    Is any one design more accurate than another?
  4. BlindJustice

    BlindJustice Senior Member

    Jul 26, 2007
    Pullman, WA
    Regardless of type barrel / bushing or no bushing
    it's the fitting that makes for accuracy, imho.

    if you want a more stable fitting over time, I'd recommend
    something like the Evolution Gun WOrks aka EGW
    bushing which is forged - the forged parts from EGW or
    other makers will have consistent hardness of the
    metal throughout the depth of the metal versus a cast part
    which has a hardened surface, if you wear through the
    hardened surface you'd get a more rapid wear rate.
    EGW will supply bushings that are made to your spec. they
    want the O.Dl. of your barrel got a micrometer?

    SOme barrels in regular 5" or 4 1/4" Commander length
    barrles in chambered for cartridges of less than .45 Caliber
    like .38 SUper or 9mm Parabellum aka Luger have an O.D at
    the muzzle same as a .45 ACP but taper in the middle towards the
    chamber and link. I have a Bar Sto Barrel in .400 Cor Bon
    which is definitely a Bull - - the .400 CorBon was based on
    the .45 ACP but now has the small pistol primer, it is bottle
    necke with a 25 degree shoulder to headspace on, for .40 cal
    bullets. The O.D. is the same as my .45 stock barrel and it's the
    same full length, - so it's heavier than most barrels but fits the
    stock bushing very well.


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