Bury a rifle?

[BADUNAME37]

In a climate where frost may be deep in the ground, unless all precautions are taken to eliminate any condensation as a result of temperature variations, I would say the gun would eventually be rusted -- the same for the ammo, if it is steel case (like Wolf).

I agree, any storage should be made indoors, if possible, in a building that is heated every winter.

 

[Taniwha]

Buried Firearms aren`t uncommon in New Zealand and Australia. Between my Father, his brother, my brother and myself, we have 19 weapons buried in 7 cache's on 2 family farms, and at least 5 of my friends (that I know of) have weapons buried in thier back yards.
Due to Incredibly restrictive gun laws that came into being after the 1990 Aramoana Massacre in New Zealand and the 1996 Port Arthur Massacre in Australia, All full-auto and semi-auto Rifles were affectively outlawed.
As well as hi-cap mags, most Handguns, shotguns with more than 3rnd mags and any rifle mag that will hold more than 10 .22rnds, Regardless of the rifles calibre!
A length of 150mm plastic pipe, with screwed on endcaps, will comfortably hold 2 weapons. Pack it full of grease, Shove it into a 225mm plastic pipe, pack out with more grease, attatch endcaps with epoxy resin/fibre glass, wrap the whole lot in PipeWrap anti-corrosion tape and you can bury that sucker anywhere you please for as long as you like.

Links to Aramoana,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramoana_massacre
and Port Arthur. For anyone interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

There's nothing inherently wrong with burying a few rifles just in case. Though I would have gone with 2 AKs instead of 2 Garands. The AKs would stand up to the beating MUCH better, and not be nearly as much of a loss if they got jacked up.

I have a co-worker who buries AK's, ammo, food, etc... He has all of his caches GPS tagged, and mapped on several maps. He is in the process of building a fallout shelter by burying a re-enforced shipping container. His house (A very VERY nice house btw) has hidden compartments, and several years worth of food. He is NOT preparing for Zombies, or TEOTWAWKI, or anything like that, he just takes the "Be Prepared" thing to a level that keeps his mind at ease. If you ever met the guy, you would never even guess that he had all this stuff. Interesting guy.

There's a much simpler level to it too. It may just be a hobby. Some people collect stuff, or work on old cars, or a multitude of other activities that could be considered objectively pointless. Your friend happens to collect survival gear. But as long as it's something the person wants to and isn't hurting anyone in the process, who cares?

 

[Tallinar]

If it's time to bury it, it's time to dig it up.

Too true.

 

[berettaprofessor]

Don't try that today, they'll be watching you dig the hole via satallite

LOL; I garden. A lot. I must be keeping an entire shift of NSC employee's busy trying to figure out what I'm putting in each hole.

 

[ny32182]

If I were subject to this level of paranoia, I would hide them in the walls rather than bury them outside.

 

[LHRGunslinger]

The better you hide something the harder it is to acccess

 

[Zack]

All my guns...

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...were lost in a boating accident in the Gulf, while I was trying to seal the oil spill.

Now thats a new one!

 

[BADUNAME37]

Buried Firearms aren`t uncommon in New Zealand and Australia. Between my Father, his brother, my brother and myself, we have 19 weapons buried in 7 cache's on 2 family farms, and at least 5 of my friends (that I know of) have weapons buried in thier back yards.
Due to Incredibly restrictive gun laws that came into being after the 1990 Aramoana Massacre in New Zealand and the 1996 Port Arthur Massacre in Australia, All full-auto and semi-auto Rifles were affectively outlawed.
As well as hi-cap mags, most Handguns, shotguns with more than 3rnd mags and any rifle mag that will hold more than 10 .22rnds, Regardless of the rifles calibre!
A length of 150mm plastic pipe, with screwed on endcaps, will comfortably hold 2 weapons. Pack it full of grease, Shove it into a 225mm plastic pipe, pack out with more grease, attatch endcaps with epoxy resin/fibre glass, wrap the whole lot in PipeWrap anti-corrosion tape and you can bury that sucker anywhere you please for as long as you like.

Links to Aramoana,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramoana_massacre
and Port Arthur. For anyone interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)

LOL
When our civilization kills itself, these pipes will be orbiting throughout space and will eventually be found by someone, possibly in the past, in another time-space warp.

 

[Dan Forrester]

Maybe the old man was trying to dispose of them for whatever reason. Maybe he stole them 50 years ago and now in his old age thinks he needs to get rid of the evidence. Just a thought. You never know what’s going through someone’s head.

You don’t necessarily have to fear massive NWO gun confiscations to bury a couple guns. Think if the **** really did hit the fan on even a local scale like a hurricane or earthquake. The police will be out there confiscating people’s guns and searching vehicles once curfews are in place. Remember most cops now a days are trained in Iraq where this stuff is just every day work for them. Well if I want to head to my vacation home (or retreat) out in the country while a state of emergency has been declared (which is usually a couple days before a disaster) CCW, sale or transportation of firearms is now prohibited. You get stopped by the cops and your guns are gone. Maybe you weren’t even aware of the law; but ignorance is no excuse.

If you had something stashed in an easy to find place at least you would have something to defend yourself with. Sure you could use a safe or hide it really well but if burglars have days or weeks to take their time with your safe or find you hiding spots they’ll get what they want. This is particularly easy at someone’s vacation home or retreat where the owners might not stop by for weeks or monnnths.

Dan

 

[LHRGunslinger]

@ Dark Tranquility: Isn't it nice that the government takes away our guns when we need them the most?

 

[wishin]

Don't try that today, they'll be watching you dig the hole via satallite.

You'll be fine if your shoes aren't shined.

 

[Adventurer]

Don't forget where you buried it. Imagine archaeologists finding your cache 5000 years from now.

 

[bigalexe]

Links to Aramoana,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramoana_massacre
and Port Arthur. For anyone interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Ar...re_(Australia)

Not to threadjack but let me get this straight:
2 mentally ill lone gunman go on shooting sprees = Everyone gets deprived of a right to defend themselves.

***!

 

[LHRGunslinger]

Suggestion. If you're going to bury your stash use a good ol ink n paper map to remember where you left it. The US government aka Big Brother monitors all electronic communications in this country.

 

[Mp7]

@Tanihwa

I always supsect Coober-Pedy wasnt about Opals.
It´s Blokes who forgot where they buried all those SKSs

There´s many a K98 lying in the ground around here, probably just put in waxed-paper or wrapped in a leather-Coat. No PVC pipe back then. They´ll be rusted away now.

 

[DeepSouth]

I have a friend who says there is no need to bury a gun because wall paneling comes down and goes up so easily. I don't know if he knows that from experience or not, I'm not gonna ask either.


+25 on if it's time to bury them, it's time to dig'em up.

 

[Manco]

Who knows, such a practice might just come in handy if you're up against liquid-metal robots from the future.

 

[TexasBen317]

My Dad several years ago "hid" a couple of pistols in the attic. Not from the government, just cause that is the way he was. He also took all the keys from NEW locks he bought and hid them UNUSED,, we found the locks when he died, but never did find the keys. The guns hidden in the attic were ruined,, I have one hand gun, just because my Grand Dad, carried it as a railway mail clerk, but it will never fire again.

 

[Justin]

Last weekend at the the GS, guy walks in with two Garands that look like they spent the last six months in a river. Apparently this guys father buried these two rifles on his property,,now his poor son is trying to salvage what he can.

I'm starting to think there's a mental illness that causes some people to confuse rifles with tulip bulbs.

 

[carlsca]

Don't forget to cover the whole thing with tin foil to keep out the alien rays...

 

[MisterMike]

My Doomsday preparation consists primarily of making sure I have a good-sized cache of wine and beer, and of having a lot of candy bars in the pantry, so the whole idea of sealing and burying guns and ammo, building Faraday cages to protect against EMP, and so on is a little foreign to my way of thinking. Of course, this means that I'll be among the first to go once Doomsday actually does arrive, but in the meanwhile I'm pretty happy with my state of (un)preparedness.

On a practical note, I'd just add that I've seen a lot of smart people underestimate the thoroughness of their preparation of machines for long-term storage. Mother Nature has a way of destroying those things that are less than ideally pickled. If I were going down this road, I'd slather my guns with a protective anticorrosive coating of some sort (grease?) before sticking them in a sealed container. Even so, once they're buried there's a pretty good chance that, in all but an arid climate, roots, critters or ground movement will breach the container.

 

[Blackbeard]

If it's time to bury it, it's time to dig it up.

I disagree, if nothing else than for practicality. The time to bury them is when they are banned. The time to dig them up is when enough of the population is ready for an armed revolution. While those two dates should be the same, in reality they are several decades apart.

 

[KarenTOC]

Oops, my bad. I thought this was the follow-up to the How do guns die? thread. Nevermind.

 

[Shadow 7D]

True, but on the other hand, I also love the threads here where someone finds a gun in a wall during remodeling, believe I saw one about 2 months ago where a plumber found a rifle and shotgun fixing something in a members house. Also seen a few from the Rust Queens thread, ruined in an attic or basement or dug up from some farmers field.

If you bury it, you have to let someone know, but then the truly paranoid won't do that because it's not a secret if 2 know.