Lone_Gunman
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Actually he was elected twice by the people of the USA.
Yep, he's a self-made man for sure.
Actually he was elected twice by the people of the USA.
\GoRon said:So what would the Bush haters here rather we as a nation do?
What different policy would you run on if you were up for election?
Not whining about what Bush has done, but what you or your ideal candidate do that would be substantially different than the current administration.
No pie in the sky stuff. Remember, congress makes the laws, you have to deal with them.
What is the direction, what is the alternative?
Focus on al-Quaida, Iraq and the overall war on terror.
The fact that the alternative isn't obvious to everyone reading this tells us that nobody is out there proposing a real alternative.
GoRon said:Actually he was elected twice by the people of the USA.
What is the direction, what is the alternative?
Be. Honest.
If this was WWII all those of Arab descent would be in internment camps, courtesy of a Democrat presidentWould we have trusted a president in WWII if he was close friends with Hirohito or Hitler's immediate family?
Hawkmoon said:Face it ... those who have been PERSONALLY affected are in jail or military detention and cannot respond...
The handy thing about imprisioning people without due process is that there is now way to know who is being imprisoned, where, why, and for how long. Hell, for all we know, there could be a thousand US citizens stuck in Gitmo, and they all could be guilty of nothing more than asking irritating questions of The Powers That Be. We don't know, so we don't complain much.That means that The Patriot Act has been successful; glad to hear your endorsement Hawkmoon! I feel the same! That is why I support it as a tool in the terror war!
GoRon said:What is the alternative plan?
GoRon said:Actually he was elected twice by the people of the USA.
Camp David said:
CAnnoneer said:Invading Iraq was the biggest military blunder, an almost irrecoverable error.
Justin said:Camp David, there is fundamentally no point in even trying to debate the topic at hand with you when you seem to have such a problem with utilizing rational debating techniques.
I, of course, fully expect him to completely ignore this post.
It doesn't get mentioned because it isn't true.And before that, the darling of Prince Bandar and the bin Laden family, too. In fact, they got flown out of the US at taxpayer expensive without being allowed to be questioned, "for their own safety". Huh.
Notice how much THAT gets mentioned, these days...
Khornet said:See Article II section1 of the Constitution of the United States of America. The preisdent is elected not by the popular vote but by the electoral college. Why wasn't that a problem when Clinton was elected without winning the popular vote? Just keeping it real. We all have to play by the rules.
The obverse of the statement is even more telling; those not affected by the Patriot Act are not in prison. Yield: the Patriot Act will not affect you as you are not a terrorist, member of a terror cell, or one advocating terrorism.
Lastly, insofar as debate techniques, rhetoric, and discussion, scroll back in this thread and others and review a few posts to digest a simple altrusim; although my opinion may not be personally palpable to your own it is clearly stated, simply articulated, and not combatative; tenets of rational debate under the Socratic Method. Should you disagree cite chapter and verse of where I ventured off your understanding of post discourse.
Lastly, insofar as debate techniques, rhetoric, and discussion, scroll back in this thread and others and review a few posts to digest a simple altrusim; although my opinion may not be personally palpable to your own it is clearly stated, simply articulated, and not combatative; tenets of rational debate under the Socratic Method.
Justin said:...because posts accusing anyone who disagrees with you of treason are the height of discourse...
Wllm. Legrand said:The mythical "War on Terror"? It seems to me that the U.S. FedGOD is the one doing most of terrorizing these days.......
CDCamp David said:trea·son (tr?'zon)
(n) (1) Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.(2) A betrayal of trust or confidence.
~and~
altruism (n) : the quality of unselfish concern for the welfare of others.
http://dict.die.net/altruism/
palpable (adj) (1) capable of being perceived by the senses or the mind, especially capable of being handled or touched or felt.
http://dict.die.net/palpable/
Camp David said:trea·son (trē'zon)
(n) (1) Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, [B especially the betrayal of one's country[/B] by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.(2) A betrayal of trust or confidence.
altruism (n) : the quality of unselfish concern for the welfare of others.
http://dict.die.net/altruism/
palpable (adj) (1) capable of being perceived by the senses or the mind, especially capable of being handled or touched or felt.
http://dict.die.net/palpable/
Biker said:CD...Concerning treason, you seem to confuse allegiance to America with allegiance to an administration. Sometimes, the two are mutually exclusive. Would you agree?
Wllm. Legrand said:The mythical "War on Terror"? It seems to me that the U.S. FedGOD is the one doing most of terrorizing these days.
Camp David said:If you wish to amend your comments feel free. They are cited above for your reference. Think how some soldiers might feel if they were told they were the enemy? That is what you seemed to imply. If I misread or misunderstood your comments feel free to reply and correct the record..
Justin said:...perhaps you ought to explain what you meant when you said "...although my opinion may not be personally palpable to your own..."