Buy a gun, get a letter from Big Brother...

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California has so many sales of gun laws peculiar to itself I wish they would include a short summary with every purchase .

You'd have to rent a Uhaul with every gun purchase just to take the literature home.
 
Boyo, the City Attorney and Attorney General don't sign off on "friendly reminders." It is a threat letting you know in no uncertain terms that you WILL be prosecuted if you don't abide by their rules. It also lets the owner know that they know who he is and where he lives. These people don't pay friendly visits and they don't write friendly reminders.

I suppose any reminder in whatever form that advises of penalties for violating any law could also be considered intimidation
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If it's personally sent to me, signed and countersigned by the boys who will be putting my broad backside in PRISON for failure to fill out the proper forms in triplicate, then yes it is pretty intimidating. It is intended to be intimidating.

Obviously it is an attempt to keep legitimate handguns out of the hands of illegitimate users.
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That's a laugh. These laws are designed to chill lawful transfer and ownership. They don't want you to have a firearm in the first place. That is the goal.

If we're going to compare it to auto registration laws, imagine getting a letter signed by the head of the DMV, the DEQ and your local DA telling you that unless you get your exhaust checked every year you will be prosecuted and sent to prison. Overkill? You betcha. And pretty scary if the ink is real. Of course, such a law would be designed to discourage car ownership not to keep the air clean.
 
I'm glad I live in a State with a Sheriff that does not require one to be a victim of an aggravated assault before one is allowed to conceal carry.

Yes, this definitely sounds like a bad dose of big brotherly interference. I've been to Kalifornikstan and I can't figure out why any red blooded American would want to subject themselves to such continued big brotherly travesties. :confused:
 
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Illegals are caused by greedy illegal employers and gov't with a vested interest in cheap labor! But it's more fun to bash the underdog laborer trying to feed his family. Isn't that odd? There are illegals in every state because exploitation is condoned and up until recently encouraged here.

CA is the eigth largest econ in the world and other states are dependendent on it's prosperity. Try it with out the "stink hole"...you'll have more than disarmlament to worry about.

Be careful who you alienate today's minorities are soon to be tomorrow's majority!
Or are we as gun owners in a position to pick and choose our allies.


Actually, person to person sales or gifts of handguns in the State of California has required a DROS since sometime around 1991.
This letter appears to be a way for the City of LA to attempt to educate it's local citizens in perhaps a gang ridden crime area with respect to the existing State law. Obviously it is an attempt to keep legitimate handguns out of the hands of illegitimate users.
If you actually believe that it is intended as a form of intimidation by big brother to threaten your freedom then I suppose any reminder in whatever form that advises of penalties for violating any law could also be considered intimidation. I can only assume the reference to big brother includes any governmental body from the lowest of city governments to the highest of federal governments. If that's the case you must be looking over your shoulder all your waking hours.
California has so many sales of gun laws peculiar to itself I wish they would include a short summary with every purchase . At least it may help some honest person unintentionally do something illegal and get in a jam over it.
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Well put!


CRITGIT
 
To protest this ridiculous policy, you should buy so many guns that you cause them to go bankrupt on the postage from sending you letters.
 
I got a gun related letter from the state once.

Reminded me my CCW was about to expire and encouraging me to renew it.

It's nice to live in a FREE state.
 
To protest this ridiculous policy, you should buy so many guns that you cause them to go bankrupt on the postage from sending you letters.
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Not gonna happen. The state makes between $25 and $100 just on sales tax for each gun purchase, depending on the retail price.

One idea though... get a friend with an identical gun and start trading guns. Keep filling out DROS forms for each other's pistols, and trade your guns back and forth every week. See how long it takes to piss 'em off and invent something to harrass you with.

It would also hopelessly tangle the ownership history of the guns. Especially if you expanded your circle of gun traders somehow to folks you knew and trusted, getting several hundred people who own the same gun model to commit to the act.

Might be fun to do purely to harrass the state with something really cheap, like a High Point. If it were a problem in AZ and I could find like minded people to participate, I'd do it.:neener:
 
One idea though... get a friend with an identical gun and start trading guns. Keep filling out DROS forms for each other's pistols, and trade your guns back and forth every week. See how long it takes to piss 'em off and invent something to harrass you with.

It would also hopelessly tangle the ownership history of the guns. Especially if you expanded your circle of gun traders somehow to folks you knew and trusted, getting several hundred people who own the same gun model to commit to the act.

Might be fun to do purely to harrass the state
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Well now. That should work. Especially since there is a limit of one handgun transaction per 30 day period. You and all your friends can spend some time sending harassing email from your cell...........
 
I have never seen a credible estimate of illegals in LA that went as high as 50%. Some credible crime statistics indicate that 50% of some crimes are committed by illegals though.

Considering that 100% of all ilegals are criminals, I am not at all surprised.
 
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My first FOID card came with a letter explaining how to legally buy and sell firearms. I would not be all that worried about it.
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ilbob, if you lived in a state like Florida, you would see why this is a ridiculous letter. We don't have FOID's, or registrations, or many restrictions on types of firearms.

A letter like that would never happen here, under the current laws. And I, among many, intend on keeping it that way, with our votes.
 
Why does everyone in California get their panties in a wad whenever we talk about the Draconian gun laws and pleasant reminders from the DA and others?

Those of us who live in much freer states (though still not as free as Vermont) cannot understand why anyone would choose to live under such Socialist-type laws and regulations. The problem with California is that many of the laws put in place there eventually work their way east. California is what the rest of the country will be like if the voters continue to elect leftist Congresscritters and Senators and Presidents.

That is NOT the country the founders had in mind when the threw the Tea Party in Boston Harbor. Not anything like it.
 
LaEscopeta, you are a voice of reason in a thread full of rhetoric. Thanks for making your points in a clear and logical manner.
 
If the letter was sent to everyone that legally purchased a handgun I might buy the argument that the city was simply informing buyers of certain laws and responsibilities. However since it is apparently limited to certain areas or neighborhoods it seems obvious that only certain buyers are being targeted. With this in mind the intent becomes more obvious - and objectionable.
 
If the letter was sent to everyone that legally purchased a handgun I might buy the argument that the city was simply informing buyers of certain laws and responsibilities. However since it is apparently limited to certain areas or neighborhoods it seems obvious that only certain buyers are being targeted. With this in mind the intent becomes more obvious - and objectionable.
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I don't see how it is objectionable to remind a citizen of a point of law that may not be real obvious to them. It does seem a little odd that they are only sending it to some gun buyers. But, I did not see it as threatening in anyway, or even offensive. Maybe I am not as easily offended.

If they want to waste money on this kind of thing - let them.
 
It does seem a little odd that they are only sending it to some gun buyers.
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I don't think it's odd, but rather obvious. Only certain buyers with a particular racial background such as African-American or Hispanic need to be... well... "informed." Others are exempt.

It is interesting that Democrat Progressives, who claim to champion racial minorities don’t include firearm ownership or use when it comes to their vision of championship. :mad:
 
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