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BUYING HANDGUNS OUT OF STATE TO BE CONSIDERED BY REPUBLICANS

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Georgia Republican Congressman Phil Gingrey briefly gained notoriety in 2004 when after a visit to Guantanamo Bay he issued a newsletter calling the detention center "professional, humane and innovative--a model for similar detention facilities."

This Thursday, May 11, the U.S. House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security is scheduled to consider Gingrey's latest exercise in sound judgment: a bill, H.R. 1384, to repeal the interstate ban on handgun sales, a law which has been on the books since 1968. Gingrey would also lift the federal law's current restriction that prevents Federal Firearms License holders (FFLs) from operating at out-of-state gun shows, a provision aimed at prohibiting multi-state, roving "gun show dealers."

These laws help prevent interstate gun trafficking by enhancing the ability of states to enforce their own restrictions on who may sell handguns, who may buy handguns, and what types of handguns may be sold. Gingrey's bill comes at the same time that a growing chorus of big-city mayors are calling for increased efforts to beef up existing laws as they work to stop illegal interstate gun trafficking. Traffickers exploit weak state gun laws, primarily in the South, to supply guns to gangs and criminals in urban areas. But Gingrey's bill would completely undermine states' ability to control their own handgun market and oversee dealers who sell at gun shows.

The sworn enemy of Gingrey's bill? Inconvenience. 0ne can only imagine the strain of being on vacation in Pigeon Forge, TN, seeing a handgun you just have to have at a gun dealer, and then being forced--yes, by the government!--to have it shipped to a licensed dealer in your home state before you can legally take possession of it. And contrary to what some pro-gunners might hope, merely being able to buy a gun in a different state would not give you the ability to carry the gun in that city or state to protect yourself from the C.H.U.D.s.

Gingrey's rationale is that his bill would simply extend to handguns the law that currently applies to shotguns and rifles. Yet the reason why federal law treats handguns differently is compelling. Small, easily hidden, and singularly deadly, handguns represent roughly one third of the firearms in circulation, yet they are associated with the vast majority of gun violence and gun crime. In 2004, handguns accounted for 78 percent of firearm homicides. Handguns are also by far the most prevalent weapon used to kill law enforcement officers. Sixty-nine percent of law enforcement officers slain in the line of duty from 1992 through 2002 were killed with handguns.

Representative Gingrey's time might be be better spent worrying about the gun problem in his home state. Georgia ranks 15th in the nation in overall gun-related death, so much for the empty promise that "knowing and respecting guns" guarantees that they won't end up killing you, with a rate of 13.51 per 100,000--much higher than the national average of 10.36 per hundred thousand. Meanwhile, Georgia supplies many of the guns that mayors in cities like Boston and New York are complaining about.

But to raise these facts would be, well, inconvenient.
 
Insert the word "shoes" or "power tools" for "guns" in this article to understand how ridiculous the gun control movement is....

BUYING POWERTOOLS OUT OF STATE TO BE CONSIDERED BY REPUBLICANS

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Georgia Republican Congressman Phil Gingrey briefly gained notoriety in 2004 when after a visit to Guantanamo Bay he issued a newsletter calling the detention center "professional, humane and innovative--a model for similar detention facilities."

This Thursday, May 11, the U.S. House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security is scheduled to consider Gingrey's latest exercise in sound judgment: a bill, H.R. 1384, to repeal the interstate ban on powertool sales, a law which has been on the books since 1968. Gingrey would also lift the federal law's current restriction that prevents Federal Powertools License holders (FPLs) from operating at out-of-state tool shows, a provision aimed at prohibiting multi-state, roving "tool show dealers."

These laws help prevent interstate powertool trafficking by enhancing the ability of states to enforce their own restrictions on who may sell powertools, who may buy powertools, and what types of powertools may be sold. Gingrey's bill comes at the same time that a growing chorus of big-city mayors are calling for increased efforts to beef up existing laws as they work to stop illegal interstate tool trafficking. Traffickers exploit weak state tool laws, primarily in the South, to supply tools to gangs and criminals in urban areas. But Gingrey's bill would completely undermine states' ability to control their own powertool market and oversee dealers who sell at tool shows.

The sworn enemy of Gingrey's bill? Inconvenience. 0ne can only imagine the strain of being on vacation in Pigeon Forge, TN, seeing a powertool you just have to have at a tool dealer, and then being forced--yes, by the government!--to have it shipped to a licensed dealer in your home state before you can legally take possession of it. And contrary to what some pro-toolners might hope, merely being able to buy a tool in a different state would not give you the ability to carry the tool in that city or state to protect yourself from the C.H.U.D.s.

Gingrey's rationale is that his bill would simply extend to powertools the law that currently applies to handtools. Yet the reason why federal law treats powertools differently is compelling. Small, easily hidden, and singularly deadly, powertools represent roughly one third of the powertools in circulation, yet they are associated with the vast majority of tool violence and tool crime. In 2004, powertools accounted for 78 percent of powertool homicides. Powertools are also by far the most prevalent weapon used to kill law enforcement officers. Sixty-nine percent of law enforcement officers slain in the line of duty from 1992 through 2002 were killed with powertools.

Representative Gingrey's time might be be better spent worrying about the tool problem in his home state. Georgia ranks 15th in the nation in overall tool-related death, so much for the empty promise that "knowing and respecting tools" guarantees that they won't end up killing you, with a rate of 13.51 per 100,000--much higher than the national average of 10.36 per hundred thousand. Meanwhile, Georgia supplies many of the tools that mayors in cities like Boston and New York are complaining about.

But to raise these facts would be, well, inconvenient.
 
Wonder how many of the 69% of LEOs accidently shot themselves or commited suicide with their own handguns?Or how many failed to retain their weapon in a fight?Or how many of the weapons used to kill these cops were stolen?I wonder how many 19 year old gang bangers are in the statistic that counts accidental child gun deaths.Maybe I'm not asking [or axeing ] very nice questions.Thats because I'm a bad person,one that owns multiple handguns.My ownership of these weapons is illogical because the police are all ways here to protect me from bad people.Even ones like me,all I have to is call 911.The police will appear in no time, ESPECIALLY IF I'M THREATENED BUY A BAD GUY WITH A HANDGUN THAT WAS BOUGHT IN ANOTHER STATE.I better get rid of my handguns,they might get disloyal and kill me because I'm not good looking.After that they would be free to cross state lines and find someone more attractive to kill for.
 
Would this affect in any way California law requiring that handguns meet certain "safety" criteria?

While I applaud the effort...I still feel that it will in no way help us here in Cali. We already can bar many types of semi-auto long guns that shouldn't have been affected by the bill to start with.

I think the only federal bill that would help us is one that specifically and plainly stated that "no state shall restrict an individual citizen's right to keep and bear firearms of any make, caliber, or action-type in accordance with the second and fourtheenth amendments of the Constituion of the United States of America"

Now what really pisses me off? We've had a damn republican congress, president, and judiciary for HOW LONG? Why has such a thing not come to pass? We've had to deal with all the other Republican crap like "intelligent design is science too", a vastly expanding federal government that has all kinds of freaky new powers, and deficit spending that makes even Jimmy Carter cringe...and what about firearms? nothing for people that didn't ALREADY have easy access to the coolest stuff.

I guess I can give up and move...but what a cop-out that would be.
 
A huge increase!

... 13.51 per 100,000--much higher than the national average of 10.36 per hundred thousand ...
Let's see now, that is .010% vs. the increase to
.013%. He's right ... that's a HUGE increase :eek: <grin>.
North"wet"
 
What I love is that line "Meanwhile, Georgia supplies many of the guns that mayors in cities like Boston and New York are complaining about." Hanging there supported with NO DATA to verify or counteract the allegation.

What if I penned "Meanwhile, merlot sipping pundits are responsible for terrorism"? My statement hasn't any backing either. Does that make it true? The man is alleging that the state of Georgia is responsible for guns that are used by criminals in Boston and New York without any citing of his data.

And how many in a "many"? Two? Three? Ten?

If there were any real facts to back that up you can bet your sweet bippy that the Brady gun-grabbers would get a 60 Minutes crew on the trail of the dealers responsible. Imagine, a domestic gun-running operation that buys guns and ships them interstate for sale to people who shouldn't have them. Mike Wallace would need Attends to keep from disgracing himself in his rush to cover that one. Dateline NBC and the rest would all be on the track of these "Lords of War" complete with licensed footage from the movie to play as their intro.

The guns that Mayor Bloomberg hates are the same sort of guns that Mayor Nagin confiscated in New Orleans. Legally owned arms in the hands of citizens. Neither are really concerned with where criminals get their guns.
 
And contrary to what some pro-gunners might hope, merely being able to buy a gun in a different state would not give you the ability to carry the gun in that city or state to protect yourself from the C.H.U.D.s.

Ahhh, poor deluded Sugarman. I and a lot of other permit holders can carry in a lot of other states now, and, paying heed to the environmentalists' warnings of future global devastation, I have already formed an alliance with my local C.H.U.D.'s, which gives me a nationwide pass.

How ya like them apples. :D
 
Dumb question, but how much of GA's "15th highest" gun homicide rate is accounted for by the greater Atlanta metro area? And how much by drug gangs on the I-95 drug highway to NYC?
 
Another thing to keep in mind, vis-a-vis this asshat Sugarmann, is that he wrote a book titled Every Handgun Is Aimed At You. When I saw that, I thought, how weird. I have one by my bed, and more in the safe, and they're not aimed at anyone...
 
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