C&R vs: FFL

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Am I missing something here?

Other than the cost of a FFL over a C&R, why do so many people chose C&R?
Is it the state restrictions that do not allow them to obtain a FFL?
Is it the extra "hassle" of having a FFL that moves them toward a C&R?

I'm starting to research the option of a C&R but so far the only difference between it and a FFL is cost of the license.

What am I missing?

(Mods' did not know where to post this, hope here was OK.)

RTFM.
 
RTFM,

The C&R license (which is actually a 03 FFL) is for collecting purposes only, and only allows the licensee to purchase guns that are BATF approved for purchase state to state. You also are not allowed to opperate a business with a C&R license. C&R weapons are considered to be those over 50 years old and older.

A FFL (depending on which FFL you get) allows you to opporate a business and order most modern firearms from distributors for the purpose of selling to the public. Hence this is the reason there is more of a hassel in getting one.
 
Most of us don't need or want the scrutiny that comes with a 01FFL. Having a C&R or 03FFL gets C&R guns delivered to our door and big discounts at places like Midway and Brownell's. It also gets us into the SHOT Show, and those things are plenty for most of us.
 
As the others have said, an 01FFL entails a lot more hassle and expense. You can thank the Clinton administration for a large part of this, as their Justice Dept. deliberately made the procedures to obtain and keep an FFL as complicated and difficult as possibe.

I had considered getting an 01FFL for my personal use, simply to make it easier to buy guns and bypass the waiting periods. People familiar with this subject cautioned me that since the 01FFL licenses you to do business, they won't be issued to any address that isn't zoned for business. Since I live in a residential area, that leaves me SoL. People who live in unicorporated areas or places without such Big Brother style zoning regulations might be able to avoid this pitfall.

Another negative aspect is the fact that the address you list on your 01FFL is subject to warrantless, unlimited inspections by the ATF. It's bad enough if this happens at a store, but I'd be even more unhappy having agents roam through my house.

I'm sure there's a lot I'm leaving out, but I suspect members here who have 01FFLs will chime in with input.
 
That's pretty cool, I didn't know that C&R would get you into the SHOT show. Now I'm really gonna be chomping at the bit for it to come, I mailed my application December 20th, so I figure it ought to be here anytime now.
 
OK 03FFL is it.
Now point my nose in to the wind, where do I continue my search for information , about obtaining one.

I have searched THR, but the returns are sporadic.

Thanks for your input so far people.
This is getting me excited.

I started my search because I like the WWII era firearms, which appear to fall in to the C&R domain.

Will pass on the 01FFL.
 
Ok, good info thanks!

This will be for me, collecting WWII era fire arms.
Looks like it;'s the 03FFL for me.

Thank you all.

RTFM
 
Run! Run! While There's Still Hope!

RTFM wrote:
This will be for me, collecting WWII era fire arms.
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Oh, yeah, that's what you think. "Just collecting WWII era fine arms."

Riiiight. Just like I got into Cruffling for the opportunity to buy a couple of cheap boomsticks.

I started with a mild, unassuming post-WWII Yugo Mauser. Cheap rifle, cheap surplus, just what I wanted.

Then I saw this neat Swede Mauser that spoke to me...

Hey, that Swiss Schmidt-Rubin kinda followed me home, like a lost puppy that shoots 1MOA with milsurp GP11...

And that FR8 was just too good a deal to pass up. I mean, it was an investment, seeing as I coulda turned around & doubled my money. Never did get around to selling it though...

And then there was my wife, with her wisecracks about me being an "accumulaltor," not a collector. Now that was a cruel cut...until I found out her tactic to make me a "collector" involved buying me more & nicer guns. Guns like a Webley MK VI, Martini-Henry 577-450, & such. Man, I love that woman.

Cruffling is like Lays tater chips sprinkled with crack.

You've been warned.
 
I was thinking about sending in my application too.

How long does it take for ATF to process them and return you an actual license.

Also, I've seen in various places Colt 1911's for interstate sale to C&R holders. Does the C&R apply to all weapons over 50 years, or only some weapons?
 
How long does it take for ATF to process them and return you an actual license.
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I recieved my C&R after about 4 weeks of sending it into the mail.
Also, I've seen in various places Colt 1911's for interstate sale to C&R holders. Does the C&R apply to all weapons over 50 years, or only some weapons?
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A complete list of weapons classified as C&R's can be viewed HERE. Any questions?
 
Countertop,

The timing of my application was a bit unusual......

I sent my FFL Dealer in Firearms application to the ATF in August of 2001. Everybody is aware of what sadly occurred on Sept. 11, 2001. My application was hung up for nearly 5 months due to the overload of work that all government agencies incurred during that time period. I was finally interviewed and received my license by Jan. 2002.
 
WOW!!!

Thats impressive. Five months seems pretty fast for a government agency to respond. To do so while they were overwhelmed with 9/11 stuff is incredible.

I'll try to get mine off this week. It will be interesting.
 
I had an 01 FFL back before Clinton. They cost $10/year back then and there were no hassles about zoning or other nonsense. Those were the days!
 
How long does it take for ATF to process them and return you an actual license.
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Apparently I just had to type my earlier comment out loud, because my license arrived that afternoon, so it was a little under two months for me.

~G. Fink :D
 
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